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On the "Car Talk" program that most of us listen to Saturday mornings there was a funny discussion about so called "macho" cars compared to the "girly" cars. Here is the list they came up with on their survey:

Girly
5. Dodge Neon
4. VW Jetta
3. Mazda Miata
2. VW Cabriolet
1. VW Beetle

Macho
5. Dodge Viper
4. Ford F-150 Pickup
3. Chevy Camaro
2. Chevy Corvette
1. Ford Mustang

I happen to drive a HONDA LIFE that has a 4 cylinder 660cc engine. Back home I rode a motorcycle that had a bigger engine that this thing. But I wouldn't call my car a girly car (maybe I'm too old to realize it).

How would you categorize your car taste?

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Running an episode like that would be a sure lawsuit bait in the U.S. Reminds me when the "S14" 240SX was introduced in the U.S. back in the early 1990s. It was dubbed as "Secretary's car" by a car magazine ("Motor Trend" if memory serves). Its "letters to the editor" section was flooded with complaints from the angry editors (both male and female) who considered the comment to be sexist.

Back on topic...

My taste on cars is neither macho nor girly according to the survey results above. What I want in a car is a silky smooth engine, rear-wheel drive, quick and smooth handling, and a lot of "fun to drive" factor. So far, BMW is the only carmaker whose cars meet those requirements. :)
While my "car taste" is different from that of だいはどさん, it is also not covered by survey. I prefer something that can get me from point A to point B in one piece no matter what, and with decent amount of comfort. For last few years, Subaru Forester fit that description very well. Then again, snowy and icy Canada ain't no California...
I learned in college psychology that, for many people, the "ideal" car is a psychological representation of how one wants others to perceive him. I saw the truth about this when I sold cars some years ago.

People of small stature would usually buy large cars... tiny women would buy giant SUV's that they almost needed a ladder to get into. Short guys would often buy large trucks, even if they didn't actually need the cargo space. On the other hand, people who were large (130kg or heavier) often purchased sub-compact cars or sports cars that they could barely fit into...
Another thing I noticed: no one would buy hybrid cars unless they actually SAID "Hybrid" on the car and looked different from ordinary cars. It's not enough to just drive an environmentally-friendly car... you have to make sure everyone else KNOWS you are driving it.

I'm driving my ideal vehicle: a small truck.
It hauls stuff and the gas mileage is much better than a large truck. But if I could have something else, it would be the "Dead Reckoning" vehicle from the "Land of the Dead" movie.ウインク
My taste in personal transport is a bit different again...

I have a one-human power vehicle... Here it is: a 2008 Kona Hei Hei.

Burn fat, not oil!
>メガロン
I have a master's degree in counseling "psychology", but I don't necessary agree with your hypothesis of "opposite attractions" towards the cars. As the matter of a fact, I'm an American-size 0 petite and used to LOVE a tiny tiny "SMART" car. (I used to drive one in Germany). I'm very small and I like small cars.

My ideal car is VW Golf or VW Beetle. I like small/smaller, efficient, reliable cars. But.. since we move every 3-5 years.... SUV would be our ideal car, though (I'm not driving.)
#7

>> But.. since we move every 3-5 years.... SUV would be our ideal car, though

Just curious, why would moving around every so often make an SUV your ideal car? It's not like you haul everything into your car and drive to your new destination, is it?
If I moved every few years, I would definitely load everything into my truck and haul it around. Using 0123 or some other moving company service is for wimps...or people with more money than I.
Has anyone heard about the new GM car called the VOLT. It plugs into the house electrical outlet to be recharged and runs for 40 miles per charge. I would buy one to commute to work, but I think I would be a bit shy about driving it around on the weekends.Also, y commute in US was about 120 miles round trip, so...Ayway, it's becoming cool to be GREEN...(double meaning)
>#8 だいはど

"not like you haul everything into your car and drive to your new destination, is it?"

Yeah, we kind did-- ウッシッシ!!! (Of couse, it wasn't "everything")

if we are moving overseas like... between Europe and U.S.(which often happens, too), or from East Coast to West Coast, we would fly, but ... like.. last time, we just moved from KS to WA... We DROVE ACROSS!! The thing is... movers pack our household goods and transport, but we won't see our stuff for at least 1-3months. It's going to be the same for our car. If we ship/transport our car, instead of driving, we won't see our car for at least one month = extremely inconvenient. We were very unhappy not having our car for over a month when we moved from Germany to U.S. (Renting a car would be at least $200-$250 or more a week w/tax and insurance, right?)

From KS to WA, we had a heck of time stuffing our "must-have" stuff into our car, not mention, we have a dog, too. He took up almost the half of our back seat. So.. we just wished we had a SUV.. (but.. by driving, we still could take more stuff with us than flying.... so.. we did make a right decision after all.)

so... that's the storyウッシッシ
I currently drive a Honda S2000. Completely unpractical and I love it. Funny thing is, I spent my college career working on performance hybrid cars and restoring the original and First production electric car, GM's EV1, which later got destroyed... But hey at least my school has a running function. Anyway, since my work commute is only about less than 10 miles (16km) no need to really worry much. But I have thought about getting a green car but from what I saw at the SAE World Congress, its just not up to the point where, personally, I would want one. I give another 5 years before I really look into getting a full electric car. Sorry off topic.

Being a gear head, I'd have to say I do love cars that are "sporty" because honestly, being behind the wheel relaxes me, except in traffic. However I do miss having a back seat like I did in my old car...
Macho

BMW 6 series (Germany)
GM Holden Monaro (Australia)
Aston Martin DB9 (England)
Ford GT (USA)
Maserati Gran Turismo S (Italy)

Girly

Fiat 500 (Italy)
Nissan Micra (Japan)
VW Beetle (Germany)
Ford Fiesta (god only knows)
and I have to say it...
Hummer (USA)

(sorry, but a 4WD with carpet, chrome trim and
mags, and a 6 stack CD is a girly
car.)




That show sounds like someone from Texas.

In Japan I would prefer something thats easy to park, easy to get around in, small and has some multiversital room in it, and I wouldnt call small cars here girly..


Here's what I have :)
I'm a girl, but I like the macho cars in that list much better (my dream car is a '65 Mustang).

I drive a big Jeep Wrangler right now.... and these last few days it's been the best car to drive.... my neighbours are stuck in the snow (I live in Canada) and I just plow right on through.... or stop and haul their economy car butts out of the snow drifts. They thought they were so clever making fun of my car when gas prices were higher.... but who's laughing now??

I notice that the macho cars seem to be a lot pricier than the 'girly' ones.... I wonder what could be inferred from that? ;-P
Maybe it should be Macho cars or whimpy cars.

Chris, 65 fastback, coupe or convert? I like 67 fastback but I think its kinda played out a little since the Gone in 60sec movie.
Macho

Commuting to work/school by human-powered vehicle everyday;
Rigid single-speed MTBs;
24 hour bicycling racing.

Girly

Sitting on you fat arse in a car, burning up fossil fuels and killing the planet.


BTW, the Monaro is not macho. It is bogan.
>> BTW, the Monaro is not macho. It is bogan.

I don't know if you can call a $65,000 motor car
bogan. Maybe it is, I don't own one but I do drive
one every now and then and it's a very nice car
to drive.
BTW if you had to get from Sydney to Melbourne
would you still go for peddle power?
Ian, good call on the Hummer. I wanted to buy one to impress the ladies when I was in US but now it would totally be beneath m.

As for old school muscle cars. I think what is more impressive is when you can work on them yourself. As a kid I hated wannabes who would take their custom hot rods to a shop for repairs. I drove a 74 Chevy Custom Deluxe (pick up) from around 1988 til 2000 and every time it broke down I got under the hood or behind the wheel well and worked out the kinks. More often than not with just a 9/16 wrench and a roll of black electrical tape.

The only time I took it to a shop was to get the SMOG certification and even then it was not a very reputable shop. My favorite was at Yogi bears Transmission on Florence and Santee in Los Angeles. Yogi was the best mechanic in town back then. Don't even know the guys real name.

Why the truck?
Because I wanted to see how many jealous people ask me that question.
In case you are wondering about the show, the website is http://www.cartalk.com you can listen to them on AFN radio AM810 on Saturday at 10AM in Japan and anywhere on NPR.

you can also subscribe to their podcast through itunes or RSS if you use a PSP or any other gadget like that.
I have seen some awesome single-speed bikes, but biking only goes so far, its not practical when you have to carry people, groceries, etc..

FYI eventrually we will all die, even the planet.

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Ianさん

> I don't know if you can call a $65,000 motor car bogan...

IMO, it is not the cost of the car, but that 90%+ of people at SummerNats would think it is cool, that makes a car bogan.

> BTW if you had to get from Sydney to Melbourne
> Would you still go for peddle power?

Sure. That is my dream holiday.

> ...but biking only goes so far, its not practical when you have to carry people, groceries, etc..

Japanese mums can carry groceries plus kids on their bikes.... For my next bike will be the one in the pic. Good for two kids plus shopping or loads up to 75kg.

Actually with so many good quality and well priced Human Powered Vehicles (HPV) these days, it is hard to see why people still drive cars.

> FYI eventually we will all die, even the planet.

That is true, I was just hoping to extend my life and the life of the planet...
>> IMO, it is not the cost of the car, but that 90%+
>> of people at SummerNats would think it is cool,
>> that makes a car bogan.

Point taken.

re: peddle power, I think it's a good thing. I believe
we should offer dedicated bike lanes, as well as
a heavily subsidized quick and clean public transport
service. I think the Dutch model where in some
cities you can hire a bike for a few dollars and return
it a many points around the city is worth copying.
I'm also fully aware that infrastructure for alternative
transport forms is rudimentary in most Australian
cities but you still choose that for yourself which is
great, but I don't think you win any converts with a
stick.
You make things better by putting decent bike racks
all over the city and charging 50 cents for a bus / train
fare instead of $5.00...then people will start to change.
I spend $200 on groceries for my family every week.
I use the green bags, I don't put fruit and vegetables
in plastic bags, I recycle and compost religiously...I grow
a lot of my own vegetables and I have chickens which
give me eggs. I also own a car and there are a few
company cars I drive off and on.
Bikes are an answer but they aren't the only answer
and they aren't for everyone.

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