☆ENGLISH ONLY☆コミュの☆How do natives learn English?☆

I’ve been studying about natural language acquisition of English.

So I’d like native English speakers and those of you who have learned English in your childhood to tell me how you’ve learned English.

Have you studied phonics at school?

Have you listened to any specific English songs?

The way Japanese studied English at school was so terrible that few of us use English fluently here in Japan.
(However it’s been changing, I think.)

Please let me hear your experiences.

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[3] mixiユーザー 07月05日 09:28

As an American I feel like if I hadn’t been born and raised here I think I would not know English very well. I really feel like I can’t even speak English well now and I noticed many of my American friends and family constantly make mistakes while speaking and writing. I think it’s just English is so weird and hard lol. There are no specific songs or tv shows or anything that I can’t think of that taught us English. I know some shows and music that taught us how to be good people but nothing specifically for the English language. We just have to speak English so we do....

[4] mixiユーザー 07月05日 15:25

No different than how one learns any other language growing up. Our brains are much more capable of picking up patterns, recognizing certain sounds, and developing language when we're young. the dems to be done kind of post overall linguistic barrier that gets set up once you hit a certain age. the best method once you're older is immersion, which unfortunately isn't feasible for many people. the best substitute would be to find an English speaking friend who doesn't speak very much Japanese to practice with.

[5] mixiユーザー 07月05日 16:19

I don’t know I can answer your question
I’m Japanese I started learn English when I was about 3 or 4 years old. My father was listening to English music like oldies (especially Elvis) my parents heard that I was singing.
At English school that I went I didn’t learn phonics I know about phonics lately. I use card and listening to Kids song and make body move and learned when I was 3-9years old
And at Jr High school in Japan, I didn’t learn phonics but my school put in a good amount of effort to SPEAKING English and pass Eiken So In that time our school was unusual and rare case. only regret that my teacher told me when I get older, “we should focus on grammar skill more...”
my grammar skill is not so good.... I still studying grammar but it quite hard lol

[6] mixiユーザー 07月05日 16:21

It is very helpful to just tell me experiences. Thanks for all.

[7] mixiユーザー 07月05日 22:12

So native speakers don’t know “magic e” ( or “silent e” ) in phonics study, right?

[8] mixiユーザー 07月11日 22:53

It's the same way that you "learned" Japanese.

[9] mixiユーザー 07月11日 22:56

I’d like to learn how to get that way in a non-native country, though.

[12] mixiユーザー 07月16日 15:00

Words are living things... Let’s google them!

[13] mixiユーザー 07月26日 22:35

Actually, the way that (native speaking) kids are taught to read and write will depend on your age, where you went to school and other factors. In education, just like anything else, there are trends that come and go.

[14] mixiユーザー 07月29日 16:25

Yesterday, I talked with a Canadian teacher who had completed Master’s degree in education. She said it’s quite different that people learn English in each country. People in Canada don’t study phonics but phrases a lot aloud. So mastering vocabs and phrases is the very first step, isn’t it?

[15] mixiユーザー 08月02日 17:14

>>[14] As I say, there are trends. I didn't study phonics as a child, but I think it became popular and so the generation or two after me did. I have no idea if that method continues or if it has been replaced with a new idea.

[16] mixiユーザー 08月02日 17:15

Does anyone know the latest trend?

[17] mixiユーザー 08月06日 18:38

I shall ask friends who have school-age children, next time I get the chance.
But, I'm curious about the goal of your studies. Are you studying education?
Because, for basic communication purposes I think the 'natural acquisition' of English (in children) is no different from 'natural acquisition' Japanese - it's just a case of immersion.
I have friends on both sides of the world who were just put in regular school with native speaking kids and after a 6-8 months they were fluent English/Japanese speakers themselves.

[18] mixiユーザー 08月06日 18:45

>>[17]

Now I'm studying how non-native English learners can master the 4 skills of English, which means listening, speaking, reading and writing, most effectively.

It's kind of different from natural language acquisition.

However I'd like to get some clues to make that possible.

Thanks.

[19] mixiユーザー 08月07日 12:01

For example,

How do natives learn sentences like "Having been chosen as a leading actor in the film, Ramesh soon became a star."?

Though everyday conversation, schools or specific books?

[20] mixiユーザー 09月17日 09:50

>>[19] In America we learn English and proper grammar in Elementary and Junior high schools. We have English, Language Arts, and Phonics classes in kindergarten through 4th grade. In High school we also have English and English literature classes

[21] mixiユーザー 11月02日 21:44

In short, we learn English through constant contact with the language and imitation of what we here. We learn English from the people around us. We are "fluent in English" before we got to school, so we speak and understand the language before we understand spelling, grammar, and the like. Just like you could fluently speak Japanese before you learned your first Kana or Kanji.

I think the value of imitation can not be understated. A lot of people imitate phrases and have no idea what the words mean, but understand what the phrase is suppose to mean by using in the same context as they heard it. So, from time to time, please try imitating English speaker's phrases, do not focus on writing or spelling correctly, just copy the way they speak.

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