There is such a huge difference between American English and British English! As for me, after spending many years in Scotland, I picked up the Scottish / British English which is what I wanted, but now I do have some problem to understand some americans. What about you? Here is a few examples:
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I am sorry for all my american friends, but I really really love british English but cannot stand american English...
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I am sorry for all my american friends, but I really really love british English but cannot stand american English...
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I speak Southern style. I used to be ashamed because it is true that we quite often speak with "wrong" grammar; however, as I became older I started to enjoy southern english. The culture in the south is extremely rich and we have some terrific expressions that people in other regions do not. Also, since I grew up in that region the dialect sounds like home to me when I am far away.
People who study in certain places tend to also think of the dialect in question as something familiar and positive or negative based on their experiences.
People who study in certain places tend to also think of the dialect in question as something familiar and positive or negative based on their experiences.
Oh, Stout, you started a funny topics.....
As a Hong Kong ppl, I speak half northern American English and half British English.
i am not sure too, maybe 30% Northen American and 70% British.
say,I wirte donut rather than doughnut.
But I do have a british Accent rather than American Accent.
I cannot understand when some american ppl (especailly the south) talk too fast.
I am sorry to all american ppl discussing there, but it's quite true that most of the british english speaker cannot stand American English.
Most of the british i have met told me: Hey, I hate American English , in thier very british and arrogant tune.
But don't be angry, some Queen's accent speaker cannot stand other British accent too.
But, i don't like Queen's accent, it's a bit pretentious if you talk with freinds in this way.
Conversely, my Boyfriend got a very american accent (as he is half American half French) but use all the british words and spelling.
Though, he got the accent, sometimes American cannot get his meaning too.
Say, he told me that, when he was in a lecture while he studied in a US univeristy. He asked the girl next seat " Can I have your Rubber?" something like that, and that american girl just answer back "Now?" agape.....
I think probably she would not misunderstand if my BF have a british accent.....
Yes, but sometimes it's just funny.....
As a Hong Kong ppl, I speak half northern American English and half British English.
i am not sure too, maybe 30% Northen American and 70% British.
say,I wirte donut rather than doughnut.
But I do have a british Accent rather than American Accent.
I cannot understand when some american ppl (especailly the south) talk too fast.
I am sorry to all american ppl discussing there, but it's quite true that most of the british english speaker cannot stand American English.
Most of the british i have met told me: Hey, I hate American English , in thier very british and arrogant tune.
But don't be angry, some Queen's accent speaker cannot stand other British accent too.
But, i don't like Queen's accent, it's a bit pretentious if you talk with freinds in this way.
Conversely, my Boyfriend got a very american accent (as he is half American half French) but use all the british words and spelling.
Though, he got the accent, sometimes American cannot get his meaning too.
Say, he told me that, when he was in a lecture while he studied in a US univeristy. He asked the girl next seat " Can I have your Rubber?" something like that, and that american girl just answer back "Now?" agape.....
I think probably she would not misunderstand if my BF have a british accent.....
Yes, but sometimes it's just funny.....
14> I speak with a small Southern accent, but mainly I speak Pacific Northwest because I lived there for 12 years. It does feel kind of embarrassing to speak around people from other parts of the country though, because I know it's probably obvious to them that I'm from the Midwest. I mean, I don't have any problem with grammar or anything, but still, I think other Americans tend to dismiss people who have even a small Southern accent.
15> Your rubber story is hilarious, lol. It might have helped if he'd had an accent, but even so, that would sound like a very odd question to Americans.
I don't really understand why British people seem to look down on our American English, honestly. I mean, I can understand if they are talking about people with accents like Pres. Bush (Sorry to keep referring to him, but he is the most well known Southern speaking American), his voice is even annoying to some Americans.
I would think that most Japanese people would prefer British English because the vowels sound more similar to Japanese than in American English.
15> Your rubber story is hilarious, lol. It might have helped if he'd had an accent, but even so, that would sound like a very odd question to Americans.
I don't really understand why British people seem to look down on our American English, honestly. I mean, I can understand if they are talking about people with accents like Pres. Bush (Sorry to keep referring to him, but he is the most well known Southern speaking American), his voice is even annoying to some Americans.
I would think that most Japanese people would prefer British English because the vowels sound more similar to Japanese than in American English.
Quote: I don't really understand why British people seem to look down on our American English, honestly.
Because British ppl think British english is the real Mccoy..... lol
For me, British English is easier to understand, but sometimes i think American accent is quite cute.
You see, Madonna now also pick up British accent. I don't think it's natural and i don't believe her sudden change of accent due to the influence by his current husband.
I agree with Stout, Japanese ppl prefer American English. Japanese ppl prefer everything in US than Europe. It's simply fact. Many of them have American complex.
Because British ppl think British english is the real Mccoy..... lol
For me, British English is easier to understand, but sometimes i think American accent is quite cute.
You see, Madonna now also pick up British accent. I don't think it's natural and i don't believe her sudden change of accent due to the influence by his current husband.
I agree with Stout, Japanese ppl prefer American English. Japanese ppl prefer everything in US than Europe. It's simply fact. Many of them have American complex.
24> Um... men with British accents are crazy sexy. Same with Irish and Scottish. Well.. for me any accent is nice. lol
18,19,20> What I actually meant is that, Japanese would be able to speak British English easier than American English because of the similarities between vowel pronunciation. Sorry I didn't write it clearly.
18,19,20> What I actually meant is that, Japanese would be able to speak British English easier than American English because of the similarities between vowel pronunciation. Sorry I didn't write it clearly.
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Queen's accent is a very formal which each words pronounce so prefect without any lazy tone. It's hard to explain though....
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Agree!!I like Hugh Grant quite a lot.....
Watched the DVD of music and lyrics last week.
A sweet film...
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Oh,yes, you said what's in my mind.
British accents are sexy, I like Scottish/Yorkshire accetn.....just so cute......
Queen's accent is a very formal which each words pronounce so prefect without any lazy tone. It's hard to explain though....
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Agree!!I like Hugh Grant quite a lot.....
Watched the DVD of music and lyrics last week.
A sweet film...
28
Oh,yes, you said what's in my mind.
British accents are sexy, I like Scottish/Yorkshire accetn.....just so cute......
ey up me ol muckers!
ok you have hit my sensitive spot..
first,,, english is ENGLISH ie,, from ENGLAND
second, american is AMERICAN ie,, badly spoken and badly formed grammer :D (controversial)
Many asian students that come to UK struggle because the majority are taught american at high school/college in asia
My family are scotish and i find immense pleasure at watching my friends (english) scratch their heads when my relatives speak to them! They can hardly understand a word! especially when my gran talks "old scots" :D
I did not know you had been to my country mr Stout ;)
i shall soon be working in Japan in the next few months (keep an eye out on mixi, i'll post there when i know the date).
Most scots you see in films talk "accented english". This is meaning a foreigner talking a language they are not used to so the pronounciation is different.
American however, does NOT follow all rules of English, spelling or grammer. Similar, but NOT the same language! It is like comparing spanish to mexican!!!
anyway, i would love to argue and rant all day but my last exam for this year is in 1 and half hours, so, best revise.
laters me gadgies ;)
ok you have hit my sensitive spot..
first,,, english is ENGLISH ie,, from ENGLAND
second, american is AMERICAN ie,, badly spoken and badly formed grammer :D (controversial)
Many asian students that come to UK struggle because the majority are taught american at high school/college in asia
My family are scotish and i find immense pleasure at watching my friends (english) scratch their heads when my relatives speak to them! They can hardly understand a word! especially when my gran talks "old scots" :D
I did not know you had been to my country mr Stout ;)
i shall soon be working in Japan in the next few months (keep an eye out on mixi, i'll post there when i know the date).
Most scots you see in films talk "accented english". This is meaning a foreigner talking a language they are not used to so the pronounciation is different.
American however, does NOT follow all rules of English, spelling or grammer. Similar, but NOT the same language! It is like comparing spanish to mexican!!!
anyway, i would love to argue and rant all day but my last exam for this year is in 1 and half hours, so, best revise.
laters me gadgies ;)
Wow. I feel kind of awkward being the only American on here. lol
31> Well I think the 'r' sound is a lot different in American English. When I was trying to learn how to make the 'r' sound in Japanese, it was very difficult and still is. Mainly because the movements of the tongue seem awkward when pronouncing. I think also Japanese have a hard time learning English at all because their syllables are so limited. English languages in general have many sounds that don't even exist in Japanese. But I think that Japanese still do a pretty good job because a lot of English words are used in Japanese, but they are changed. Like orenji = orange and supotsu = sports. It's not perfectly correct in English, but you will get your meaning across most of the times.
39> Um, no, I think you are wrong. American English is separate from British English. It's not like we try to copy British English and then are too stupid to spell or pronounce things right.
31> Well I think the 'r' sound is a lot different in American English. When I was trying to learn how to make the 'r' sound in Japanese, it was very difficult and still is. Mainly because the movements of the tongue seem awkward when pronouncing. I think also Japanese have a hard time learning English at all because their syllables are so limited. English languages in general have many sounds that don't even exist in Japanese. But I think that Japanese still do a pretty good job because a lot of English words are used in Japanese, but they are changed. Like orenji = orange and supotsu = sports. It's not perfectly correct in English, but you will get your meaning across most of the times.
39> Um, no, I think you are wrong. American English is separate from British English. It's not like we try to copy British English and then are too stupid to spell or pronounce things right.
I'm English so I'd like to set a couple a things straight ;
"UK English" is a hard thing to describe but coming at it from the angle of non-English people I think what everyone thinks of as "UK English" is the clean, well spoken English used by people like Hugh Grant in films etc...
That is actually not a "standard" as much as an accent.
It's called "Recieved Pronunciation" or "R.P".
As far as I know there is no such thing as "American RP".
For us English people, R.P is evil.
The Hugh Grants of the English Speaking World are the bad guy, and he (his English) doesn't represent us or a 'standard' at all.
Anyone who talks like that outside of London, or even in the non-swanky parts of London is instantly recognized for the rich-boy toffs that they most probably are.
(excludes scholarship students ofcourse)
Some of you might be thinking why I am so hard on people who speak beautiful English right now...
Well, up until the 50s R.P was institutionalized in our schools - it was a kind of ethnic cleansing of our regional accents until that point.
You couldn't be taken seriously, in anything, if you didn't at least try to emulate the rich private school boys' way of talking.
That all changed throughout the 50s and 60s and at last we English people could speak our Regional accents with pride instead of behind closed doors.
But the stigma of R.P stays with us.
We will never trust that fucker....
We hear someone talk with R.P and we think "enemy".
So I'm very glad to hear Scots (did someone even mention Yorkshire!?) accents are popular. That's *real* English....Even if the speakers aren't English.
I'm from the North of England, so I used to speak with a heavy accent (Mancunian). After being in Japan for many years now, and many many trips to America I have lost my accent almost completely - most people think I'm a German who speaks very good English. Which...as an Englishman...well you can imagine how that feels...
Anyway, I like all the English accents as each is obviously the product of deep culture.
As is each American English accent.
But
As mentioned prevously, I hate R.P.
Whenever I hear a Hugh Grant type try to use a regional or colloqiual term, like "mate" for instance, it turns my stomach.
For years the establishment tried to kill off our regional accents, called them vulgar, and refused to give anykind of respect to them.
Now they want to say "mate" because they know real English people say "mate" a lot.
Sorry rich boys, but you can't have those words....
(but please feel free to adopt a regional accent in order to do so)
OK then...
Bye
or in Mancunian....
"fuck off"
"UK English" is a hard thing to describe but coming at it from the angle of non-English people I think what everyone thinks of as "UK English" is the clean, well spoken English used by people like Hugh Grant in films etc...
That is actually not a "standard" as much as an accent.
It's called "Recieved Pronunciation" or "R.P".
As far as I know there is no such thing as "American RP".
For us English people, R.P is evil.
The Hugh Grants of the English Speaking World are the bad guy, and he (his English) doesn't represent us or a 'standard' at all.
Anyone who talks like that outside of London, or even in the non-swanky parts of London is instantly recognized for the rich-boy toffs that they most probably are.
(excludes scholarship students ofcourse)
Some of you might be thinking why I am so hard on people who speak beautiful English right now...
Well, up until the 50s R.P was institutionalized in our schools - it was a kind of ethnic cleansing of our regional accents until that point.
You couldn't be taken seriously, in anything, if you didn't at least try to emulate the rich private school boys' way of talking.
That all changed throughout the 50s and 60s and at last we English people could speak our Regional accents with pride instead of behind closed doors.
But the stigma of R.P stays with us.
We will never trust that fucker....
We hear someone talk with R.P and we think "enemy".
So I'm very glad to hear Scots (did someone even mention Yorkshire!?) accents are popular. That's *real* English....Even if the speakers aren't English.
I'm from the North of England, so I used to speak with a heavy accent (Mancunian). After being in Japan for many years now, and many many trips to America I have lost my accent almost completely - most people think I'm a German who speaks very good English. Which...as an Englishman...well you can imagine how that feels...
Anyway, I like all the English accents as each is obviously the product of deep culture.
As is each American English accent.
But
As mentioned prevously, I hate R.P.
Whenever I hear a Hugh Grant type try to use a regional or colloqiual term, like "mate" for instance, it turns my stomach.
For years the establishment tried to kill off our regional accents, called them vulgar, and refused to give anykind of respect to them.
Now they want to say "mate" because they know real English people say "mate" a lot.
Sorry rich boys, but you can't have those words....
(but please feel free to adopt a regional accent in order to do so)
OK then...
Bye
or in Mancunian....
"fuck off"
I'm American from the Southwest. I don't notice my own accent, but my relatives from the north say I have one. When I try to speak Japanese to fast I tend to roll my R's too.. which is weird, I don't know where it comes from.
I don't think any accent is 'more proper'. Not even the British speak the same English they did 300 years ago. Its not wrong or right, its just different. All languages add and remove words over the years. I've never heard of an accent making you sound more 'ignorant' but perhaps thats because I grew up in the South... where I don't think they care. English itself is a retarded broken language. The language is so hard to learn because there are too many exceptions to our rules on grammar. Our language is just a hybrid of a dozen other languages. I've never understood the insistence on silent vowels... that we apparently picked up from the French. Take "Seoul, Korea".... wouldn't we read it the same if it was spelled "Sol, Korea" what the fuck with the 2 vowels that add nothing to the word?! Maybe it only sounds the same because of an American accent?
Most women in America like the softer accents like French and British. I seem to be opposite haha. I like the sharp accents like German or Japanese. Whatever tickles your pickle I suppose.
I don't think any accent is 'more proper'. Not even the British speak the same English they did 300 years ago. Its not wrong or right, its just different. All languages add and remove words over the years. I've never heard of an accent making you sound more 'ignorant' but perhaps thats because I grew up in the South... where I don't think they care. English itself is a retarded broken language. The language is so hard to learn because there are too many exceptions to our rules on grammar. Our language is just a hybrid of a dozen other languages. I've never understood the insistence on silent vowels... that we apparently picked up from the French. Take "Seoul, Korea".... wouldn't we read it the same if it was spelled "Sol, Korea" what the fuck with the 2 vowels that add nothing to the word?! Maybe it only sounds the same because of an American accent?
Most women in America like the softer accents like French and British. I seem to be opposite haha. I like the sharp accents like German or Japanese. Whatever tickles your pickle I suppose.
DJ Stout:
my gran is living in murryfield!! right next to the stadium!! originally my family, the Ogilvie clan is from the north of the lowlands. Got a lovely castle there (Google Cortachy castle).
to all:
I never look down upon other countries, differences about language culture etc. I just become upset when people talk about my own.
Imagine I say to a Japanese person.. "oh, i see you speak Japanese Japanese..."
This has the same effect of saying "oh, i see you speak British English"
Does no one else seem to think that strange? well, perhaps not as the worlds largest majority of "English" speakers are.... America..
Is it good or bad for American to teach American/accented English/American grammar to the rest of the world under the heading of "English". It is not for me to say.
_stout check this; (will make you glad you studied in Scotland).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE&mode=related&search=
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quite a tongue you have! I am sure you would hate my English, it is too.. upper middle class for you ;)
Though I think is more about how you are brought up in UK. I went to public school but my father always taught be good grammatical English.
I am sure when toffs use mate, it is to take the piss or lower classes?
anyway. i am going to add you so i can read more of your muses :D
my gran is living in murryfield!! right next to the stadium!! originally my family, the Ogilvie clan is from the north of the lowlands. Got a lovely castle there (Google Cortachy castle).
to all:
I never look down upon other countries, differences about language culture etc. I just become upset when people talk about my own.
Imagine I say to a Japanese person.. "oh, i see you speak Japanese Japanese..."
This has the same effect of saying "oh, i see you speak British English"
Does no one else seem to think that strange? well, perhaps not as the worlds largest majority of "English" speakers are.... America..
Is it good or bad for American to teach American/accented English/American grammar to the rest of the world under the heading of "English". It is not for me to say.
_stout check this; (will make you glad you studied in Scotland).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE&mode=related&search=
...:
quite a tongue you have! I am sure you would hate my English, it is too.. upper middle class for you ;)
Though I think is more about how you are brought up in UK. I went to public school but my father always taught be good grammatical English.
I am sure when toffs use mate, it is to take the piss or lower classes?
anyway. i am going to add you so i can read more of your muses :D
ali,
Well my post post wasn't really serious - I don't "hate" anyone who speaks like Hugh Grant...
But the history of R.P is interesting - infact if public school boys weren't still taught it, it'd be dead...so they are the last living reminders of it in a way.
I went to a regular Comprehensive, and got taught good grammar, and the teacher even tried to instill a bit of R.P in us too - but growing up in rural Lancashire it was meaningless...we were surrounded with local dialect and had no reason to disown it.
As for toffs and "mate" etc....
Na, I mean like when some toff decides to try and make himself look like a "salt of the earth" type and starts using these kinds of terms...like when in a local pub or something.
Good luck to them, but they should know how stupid it makes them look.
Even I admit R.P is beautiful...
I think if you speak it you should be proud, whatever your accent/dialect/upbringing...
Anyway...
Well my post post wasn't really serious - I don't "hate" anyone who speaks like Hugh Grant...
But the history of R.P is interesting - infact if public school boys weren't still taught it, it'd be dead...so they are the last living reminders of it in a way.
I went to a regular Comprehensive, and got taught good grammar, and the teacher even tried to instill a bit of R.P in us too - but growing up in rural Lancashire it was meaningless...we were surrounded with local dialect and had no reason to disown it.
As for toffs and "mate" etc....
Na, I mean like when some toff decides to try and make himself look like a "salt of the earth" type and starts using these kinds of terms...like when in a local pub or something.
Good luck to them, but they should know how stupid it makes them look.
Even I admit R.P is beautiful...
I think if you speak it you should be proud, whatever your accent/dialect/upbringing...
Anyway...
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