Kinky EnglishコミュのIs it morally right to bring back an extinct species?

I would personally not like having my own clone. About helping some species that are dying, then yes it is the only way!

bro what about cloning some 10.000yen bills ? :P

People will start cloning a lot of things once the technology goes mainstream, the problem will always be the questionable and uncontrollable side effects.

Remember Dolly the cloned sheep? She died prematurely and was plagued by a whole host of congenital problems including susceptibility to infection.

Scientists have found that "death" is one of the programmed characteristics of the cell cycle. As cells age the tail ends of our DNA strands get slowly whittled away, leading to genetic instabilities and cellular malfunction.

Essentially I think it means we aren't meant to live forever because nature has found that the only way maitain a healthy population is to have the older generations die and leave room for the next.

They've found that when attempts to clone adult somatic cells (regular body cells, non sexual or mitotic cells) are made, the product is the embryo is genetically as old as the adult from which it is originally cloned.

While they may yet overcome some of these issues with advancing technologies, I'm fairly certain that the prospect of cloning will always carry inherent and unpredictable biological and ethical problems.

I think cloning is wrong for animals...
But could be right for humans...

The reason is very basic, but ; The fundamental law of Nature and Evolution that Darwin found was "survival of the fittest" - in whatever sense of "fittest"...
Animals still live by this rule. So they shouldn't recieve any help from us in surviving, or it'd be tampering with the Natural order that they live in...
I think that is wrong - on two counts ;
1) just the basic premise of "lets help the animals out" and 2) there doesn't seem any coherent criteria to choose which animals to help, and which not

But humans don't live by the fundamental rule anymore (ever since the Monolith taught us how to bop people on the head with bones in 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY).
We can save people with our medical technology - people that otherwise wouldn't have survived if we still lived by the rule of nature...we have taken ourselves out of the loop in some sense...
i.e someone like Stephen Hawking wouldn't survive if he were a Lion, say...
But the fact Stephen Hawking has survived, and can function thanks to our technology (that animals don't have) has given us a lion's share of knowledge that we otherwise wouldn't have had if we'd let Nature take it's course (not use technology to save him)
Stephen Hawking is an extreme example - but it could be anything. People who wear glasses, diabetics, someone who can't run, people with depression, anything...
We have already taken ourselves out of Nature's self-regulating law. People, who if were animals otherwise wouldn't survive, can cheat "survival of the fittest"...(in one sense)
So it's doesn't seem wrong to me that we should use cloning too - even though it's not Natural.

But like Guchi, I think even if you have a decision on wether it's right or wrong, cloning isn't a technology that looks like working in the way people think it will. If at all.
I think at best, the most probable and plausible use for it would be medical - and only invlove cloned parts of yourself. Replacing a lost part after an accident/illness etc...

So I'm sorry for the Pandas, but if they can't survive on their own...even in the face of 'unnatural' pressures from mankind...well...
Remember 99% of the species that ever lived on Earth are extinct....
Although we'll have to deal with the fact it's us who are responsible for things like the Dodo...

Yeah but if we could bring some species back to give the earth a good balance, that would be great. Don't forget that lots of predators are slowly dying because of not enough food... and we are now emptying the whole fucking ocean. Right now we have too many instects, too many crow and too many wild big, but then we have not enough .... well not enough of all the other animals.

Cloning has it's positives. By cloning human organs, doctors may be able to create extra organs for patients that need to replace their old and sick organs. A patient with a heart that is no longer functioning properly, today has to wait maybe for years until a fresh organ may be inplanted. And many, too many, die in the waiting-queue. Cloning may also help scientists to discover new ways of treating diseases that today are considered, more or less, uncurable in many cases. For instance AIDS and many types of cancer.

,We all know what happened to Dolly, the first cloned sheep who died from complications, but that still leaves all the domestic cats which have been cloned that most of us have probably heard about; nothing has happened to them. Texas A&M has cloned a cat, bull, and horse, so why should cloning not be used to preserve animals in danger of extinction? it would be a matter of identifying which endangered species is less likely to get complications and then cloning them and going from there.

We would be using the cloning process to help/better the animals or in the case of extinct animals, give them a chance to thrive once again. It is as if we are giving them another chance for our ignorance.

dont you guys want to visit jurassic park ? or see mammoth in your zoo ?or even keep dodo in your home ?

My question is, can we really clone a dodo or a mammouth? And can we clone Elvis?

not now bro,maybe in 10,20 or 100 years from now we could clone ELVIS , JOHN LENNON ,SADDAM HUSSEIN , HITLER . HAHAHA. but i do want to clone bob marley :)

I'd like to clone my wife to have a 3some hahahaha or even a 4some!!!!

thats a very very smart idea . i want to clone my wife too ,bro .see , we can do so many thing in cloning .

i want to clone the best weed on earth too :P

Morally right or wrong, I'm sure human cloning will eventually happen. Is cloning good or natural? It's hard to say. I don't think anyone's ever established a concrete definition of "good" or "natural". But I think that by the time someone has developed a means to clone humans, it will be ready made with an intimidating array of problems.

I agree with ..., We've certainly put ourselves out of the original concept loop of survival of the fittest, because we've weighed in such a heavy technological advantage to ourselves. I don't think we are particularly smarter than immediately preceding generations, we've simply accumulated an exponentially expanding bank of knowledge that gives the whole of humanity the ability to overcome incredible levels of physical/genetic barriers.

The history of mankind is a series of confident forays into the unknown that often end in some kind of disaster. Unless we've truly learned a thing or two from history we'll just keep on wrecking things in the attempt to utilize the latest advances in knowledge. No one here really lives for the sake of generations millennia in the future, and we'll never know the kind of impact our actions will leave on history, but if we start cloning ourselves, I feel pretty sure that the footprint will be crazy big.

Hope the ganja-cloning goes well herp, just don't overdo it, the world only needs one herpetologist like you.. haha

Guchi>>

thanks for your concern bro , i used to smoke about 10g a day . now its just 1 or 2 joint a day :P it give me inspiration when im doing interior design , and relax after a day of hard work . i dont do chemical,ganja is enough for me :) opps,i cant find my paper now :p

13: herpetologist>> You must be one hungry man! hahaha
:)

Guchi>>

im not hungry now , just thirsty ( after that fat joint) :P

frggin addicts!

Lamadai>>

hey monk , think you are a lama ? you think smoking herbs will get addicted ? read more books get more information before you comments anything, if you are staying in the mountain.