☆ENGLISH ONLY☆コミュのSo who else has no understanding of japanese

I can not read a word of japanese or understand a word of japanese (okay maybe i can say "bye") but thats it. So, any other brave souls who have ventured onto mixi without having a clue about japanese.

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[3] mixiユーザー 04月20日 06:42

Well, I know hiragana, katakana a bit of kanji. I have a basic understanding of the language structure. So, I can decipher some things. I joined mixi so I could learn more japanese. It is difficult but interesting.

[4] mixiユーザー 04月20日 07:06

whats hiragana, katakana, and kanji

[5] mixiユーザー 04月20日 07:10

not a god damned clue! I went out drinking with this local girl and woke up logged into mixi!

I've been here every since.

[6] mixiユーザー 04月20日 07:15

hello--!!!
why dont you TRY to start learning Japanese!?

[7] mixiユーザー 04月20日 07:29

Sameer>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system

I don't see why anyone on mixi wouldn't want to learn some Japanese. It definitely makes navigating the pages and communicating with people much easier...

[8] mixiユーザー 04月20日 07:54

Pr0digalS0n and a:e

I do want to learn japanese, but I've got a few other things I need to learn before that.

[9] mixiユーザー 04月20日 08:57

I have no clue about Japanese, but I certainly am trying. it is a more difficult since I learn languages better in person with a tutor/teacher, and in my city (small capital in the southern US) the Japanese classes offered at the local uni are available only to those who are Japanese born in the US! ah well. luckily, I also have patient Japanese friends.

[10] mixiユーザー 04月20日 13:02

how does someone end up on a site like mixi without knowing any japanese? that doesn't really make sense. secondly, HOW did you do it? if i recall correctly, all the sign up pages are in full-on japanese, right?..

[11] mixiユーザー 04月20日 13:16

You can just sort of fill them out randomly... ;)

It's not that hard to get around here, though it certainly helps if you know hiragana and katakana.

[12] mixiユーザー 04月20日 13:53

I just joined mixi a month or two ago and I dont know how to read japanese.. Even my japanese friend who invited me was surprised when I set up my site faster than her and most of our other friends. But, I figured out almost everything, its not too hard, but I' a graphic designer and I'm always on the computer. I'm just good at figuring things out though...

Right now, I'm learning japanese in a night class I have and it really hasnt helped me with using mixi. I can read certain things, but I dont know what there means are in english, I still have to have them translated into english, english..If you learn japanese, you should know what I mean..

[13] mixiユーザー 04月20日 14:09

I did not realize mixi does not have English version...Well, you guys ended up coming here somehow, without knowing much of Japanese! That is very impressive, I think.

Japanese language is not so difficult if you only learn how to speak and listen. But it gets extremely hard when you want to learn how to read and write, that is different from English language.

Good luck!

[15] mixiユーザー 04月20日 15:41

i have a question for all of you then, how can you manage through this website without knowing a word of Japanese?

[16] mixiユーザー 04月20日 15:45

Well, I do understand a fair bit of Japanese, so it's not that hard for me! ;)

To find a forum, though, you can just use the forum search function, and enter only english words, that's an easy way to find the forums that support english only!

[17] mixiユーザー 04月20日 18:36

You know its like navigating the Japanese OS without knowing a word of Japanese. When I was in India working for a Japanese auto major..a Japanese advisor was amazed at the ease with which the Indians used to navigate the Japanese screens without knowing a word of Japanese. (He didn know a thing about OS and Computers itself ..so he also din know the meaning of Japanese written there..lol)..
You just go by instincts ..and hey presto ..you get your desired screens!!

Aur bhai sammer ..abhi Japan mein kya?

[19] mixiユーザー 04月20日 19:32

When I first came to Japan and had to work on the Macintosh in Japanese, it helped immensely that all the software menus were the same as the english versions, just with kanji instead. Then I soon learned that you could take Hexedit and manually change every menu item back to english, which I then did. I kept those modified versions of the software for ages.

Most software is laid out in a fairly logical manner that is replicated in most languages. Often that is because the base software was designed in english, and then translated into Japanese (or other languages). A lot of this has to do with the base programming being in english (in a relative sense only!). Nobody would use double-byte characters for a programming language.

[20] mixiユーザー 04月21日 01:09

just imagine double byte for programming..haha..

[22] mixiユーザー 04月21日 05:34

I was invited to Mixi by a lot of my friends, who all speak Japanese. When I first joined mixi, I was barely past my basics, but now that I'm at an intermediate level of Japanese, I can understand a lot more than when I first joined and being on mixi has really helped my written Japanese >.<

[24] mixiユーザー 04月21日 09:03

Sean,

its not that hard to sign up without knowing japanese. its a pretty standard sign up form. and plus a lot of the html is in english. the url names are in english too.

[25] mixiユーザー 04月21日 09:23

It's a piece of cake if you know katakana. ;)

[26] mixiユーザー 04月21日 10:20

19> I think I read somewhere the Chinese are actually proposing double bite programming language to cater to their way of doing things (they don't use katakana like Japan, so whenever there's a new word they invent a new kanji. Even hollywood actor's names are translated into kanji.)
So they are talking about programming language in kanji to make it easier for the Chinese to dominate the field....

it's all just numbers in the end anyway....

[27] mixiユーザー 04月21日 11:38

26>

That idea wont work because Indians use English for programming and there are more Indian programmers than Chinese programmers. (and India will surpass China in population)

[28] mixiユーザー 04月21日 12:06

27> Hello Sameer,
Yeah. Just to remind you it's not me who's saying that the Chinese could dominate, it was a magazine that said it. I'm pretty sure it won't work either, but do you think the Chinese are really bothered about that?
When I said "it's all just numbers anyway" I was refering to hexadecimal, binary etc that sort of thing. Not populations if that's what you thought I meant....

Anyway yeah, the Indians are primo code writers - I think it's their history of excellence in Mathematics perhaps...
Also the time difference between India and the Western continent makes for a great work situation for the software companies too I think - 24hr coding etc...

What brings you to mixi by the way?

cheers

[29] mixiユーザー 04月21日 14:47

28>

I'm just getting a feel for Japanese culture as I plan to do business in Japan in the near future.

What's your story? Where you from and why are you in Japan (or at least what brings you to mixi)

[30] mixiユーザー 04月21日 15:07

29> hey there Sameer,
Well I'm not sure anyone wants to see my story, so I'll spare you that...but I'm English and I've been in Japan for about 4 years now - copy writing...(not copywriting but copy writing)
Got invited to mixi by a client I wrote a catch phrase for...

OK then....good luck on your business ventures etc.
Careful asking questions about Japanese culture on here though - I'd read a book instead.
I guess there are scholars who've devoted whole careers to trying to 'understand' Japan, and can't seem to come to any qualitative conclusion....so if they can't crack it, I wouldn't take anyone's "experience" too seriously here....bit cynical perhaps...but this is the internet you know....

Best bet to get a feel for Japanese business situations, short of coming out for a quick look, is enquire at the Japanese Embassy in whatever country you're in I guess....

all the best

[31] mixiユーザー 04月22日 06:05

31>

well better to have a little feel for it then no feel.

[34] mixiユーザー 05月20日 09:19

sameer3-san. You said you can't speak Japanese. Have you ever try it? You CANNOT? No way. You just don't want to, right? It's quite different. It means you don't try to understand about this country. So how you know the culture??

[35] mixiユーザー 05月20日 09:28

Sameer
When I started on Mixi maybe a year ago I couldnt read any Japanese. this actually motivated me to study reading the Japanese Language. I dont practice writing it as I dont really need to or want to.
I have a friend who use this site and he has very very little Japanese language skill but hes fine. He makes friends and even meets people using only English.
Almost all the Japanese study English in Junior High and Highschool so many Japanese people have a basic understanding of simple English (which I find admirable).

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