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So, they caught Japan's most wanted today, Ichihashi.
He isn't the only murderer in Japan but he got the most airtime & I wonder if it's just because he killed a foreigner?
What do you think of this case?
How many years in prison do you think he will get?
More or less than the norm?

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I believe he deserves as many years as he can get. Also, I do think becuase he killed a foreigner, that he got a lot of airtime. But its good that he got caught. And people dont trust people so easily...this is a great example. I dont even know why he would do such a thing.
It just depends on what sells?
Obviously, a Japanese killing someone from America or England makes bigger news in Japan. And the guy even tried to get away with the crime by having cosmetical surgeries, and he somehow made it for sometime. I don't know if he is happy with the cosmetical results, though.
I have no idea why someone would want to live like that, hiding your identity, running from one town to another, always afraid of being caught. Absolutely no peace of mind. Well I guess he gave up on peace of mind when he (allegedly) decided to commit murder.

People want as much the sensational news as they want. I believe this case got extra attention partly because of the way he tried to get away with it.

I just hope justice will be served.
It's natural you wanna try to hide something you feel guilty or bad about, I believe. Anytying small or big, I guess everyone is doing that maybe without acutally realizeing it in their everyday life. Like your boss says this plan is great, and you don't feel like agreeing, but you say you do? In his case, it was way worse than just being sociable.

Once you start lying about something, you gotta make up other stories till someone finds out. In his case, it was a murder, an obvous crime. He must have wished he could get away with it, but when he got caught, he didn't resist. That's gotta show how guilty he actually felt and knew. Probaly the moment he felt relieved that he didn't have to run any more?

A lot of people who did hit-and-run, literally tried to run. The thing is it wasn't planned, so they got panicked and all the thing they come up with is just running away from the site. In his case, maybe if it was planned or what, he just didn't realize how big a crime he commieted at that time? Then he started thinking what he had done, that's why he didn't resist when he got cought?

It's all about the state of mind, and at that time, he probably didn't think he was doing something horrible. Sometimes love can turn to something else, you know.

But it's simply good that he got caught after all. He probably won't get the death penalty, but he sure will be in prison for quite sometime.

Mind you, I'm not trying to be on his side, but there are moments anyone could do something crazy in a social judgement world. You would be a hero killing as many people as possible in an enemy country during a war.
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>> He probably won't get the death penalty, but he sure will be in prison
>> for quite sometime.

I don't think he will, and to be honest with you, I hope he will be given the prison time so he can look back on the terrible thing he did and wake up to be a better human being.
As a person who was close to this case, I was elated to receive news that Ichihashi had been caught; it was a slap in the face how the police had bungled this case in a few different ways. In so many ways this case also showed how complacent and unquestioning the Japanese public truly is--I’m an American, and I consider us to be fairly apathetic in many ways; however, if we see a known felon in front of our eyes, we’re gonna phone the cops. I’m extremely relieved that member of the public did his or her civic duty here.
Should Ichihashi receive a harsher punishment because he killed a gaijin? No. That’s not how justice works. He should be tried on the evidence and receive a fair trial as with all other people. But based on what seems evident here, I hope the courts don’t bugle things the way law enforcement did.
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Personally, I think he now realizes what he has done since he simply accepted the arrestment. But justice is justice nomatter how guilty he feels, so he's gotta do his time that makes sense to other people.

Sounds like he was a good worker while he was in Osaka. He probaly wasn't a bad person by nature, some twisted love must have driven him crazy. But, you know, that cannot be an excuse.

He didn't just kill her emotionally, so he will get quite a long sentence for sure. I hope he won't get a great lawyer like OJ Simpson did!
He'll go down. Japan doesn't have a high conviction rate for nothing. Good riddance etc.
Personally, it seems that he just decided to give up since he was caught in such a public place.
Perhaps his mother's message helped him to decide.

Justice will be served in the right way I believe.
I think some people can be rehabilitated and put back on the streets, but I do not agree that someone like this man should. He did not just shoot someone or even stab them, he tied them up, beat them, and left them dead in a tub of salt. Then went and ran and got plastic surgery (which is freaking creepy).

If he'd have done this to a Japanese person, their family would want the same, for the killer to be brought to justice.
I can grant that Ichihashi probably did not intend to murder Lindsay, so whatever the equivalent of Murder 1 in Japan is, he probably won't get it. He'll at least get charged with the equivalent of Murder 2, reckless endangerment, and abandonment of a body, for sure. Hopefully the fact that he had on numerous occasions stalked Lindsay will be taken into consideration; this fellow is a menace to society, and whether he acknowledges that what he did was wrong is irrelevant in my eyes: he intentionally eluded capture for 2 1/2 years, showing some presence of mind as to the illegality of his actions.
There are, however, several lingering issues here, and I hope the media here has the courage and integrity to dig a little.
Yeah.... I never got why he got that much airtime. I suppose it is cuz he killed a white foreigner.

Another case that grabbed my attention is that horrid woman that killed guys for money, making them look like they committed suicide. She killed at least six guys or so......
ケンセイ,

On the other hand, all the developed nations have either abolished the capital punishment or have not exercised it for so long it can be considered abolished. If I understand correctly, Japan and the United States are the only exceptions.

I do hope justice will be served in this case (as with every other). I just happen to believe that everyone deserves the chance to come to his senses and pay the price for his crime. If it means 30 years in prison, so be it. That's the judge's decision.
Since he didn`t cut up or dismember the body ( which is the trend over here nowadays) he probably won`t get the death penalty. Life with possibility of parole is more likely. The more recent murder cases are making what he did seem not quite as bad. Also I don`t know about the civic duty of they person that turned him in either. There was a 10,000,000 yen bounty on his head.
That is more than enough incentive to rat him out. I wish I had seen him first. He was a walking Jumbo lottery.
16#,
True, but taking a life is permanent so maybe he should get life in jail.
アルファキティ (#20)

A life sentence with possible parole will be more like it, like TokyoOG says, since Japan does not have a life sentence without parole.


ケンセイ (#21)

Aside from the death penalty, I agree with you that Japan's crime conviction is on the generous side. I feel it the most when I see sex offenders getting 5 to 6 years in prison. As for letting the murderers loose too soon, I have a mixed feeling about it. It may be true that they come back to the society with the same mindset that they had when they committed murder, but they may have regretted their stupid acts and decided to live a new life. I may sound idealistic, but I really try to think and act like that.
Killing is not easy for a normal person. Anyone that can do these things shows that they have a capability to commit murder. This is a character trait that you are born with or not and I don`t think any amount of punishment (prison time) can change that. They will always be capable of loosing control and doing it again if the conditions are right.
What about soldiers then? -.- Are they born with that character trait or are they special and outside that genetic system?
25#,
This is why so many of them DO have problems once they've gone and killed.
That might be true, but my point was that being able to kill is not something one is or is not born with. If pressed, most people will kill.
Because if not, then all the wars should have already decimated the population that had this "genetic trait" to such a degree that we would not have any killings any more. Oh and no wars neither.
27#,
If it comes to their own life, they can kill. But I wouldn't say most people on any given day are ready to kill. That's why the military DOES have training.
#25 When you join the military you have to ignore your own feelings when it comes to killing.
People that are not born with a killer trait will not be able to live with his or her actions when the time comes. Many of them commit suicide after and even before being deployed. Being able to kill and than live with it is another story. Just consider yourself lucky if you never have to make choices like. This guy at Fort hood was "not" ordered by his superiors to kill. He did it on his own. Calculated, Premeditated. He had it in him and it came out.
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I'm not sure what kind of training the military has in your country but in my country we dont have a training to make it easier for us to kill our fellow men.

Actually, when I had training for guard duty the drill sgt. said "I'm supposed to say that when somebody crosses into our base you have to warn him 3 times and then shoot, preferably non-lethal. I advise you to not shoot at all. Let him steal whatever he wants and let the police deal with it. They're trained for that and you'll have to live with it for the rest of your life when you shoot him dead because your aim was off"

30
Sure, but the same goes for a lot of other things too. When you're hungry you have to ignore your feelings towards stealing, when you're a religious zealot you have to ignore morals and common sense. I'm not taking offence with the statement that this guy probably was a nut but with the statement burried in there that "some are born with it while others are not". Its just so very simple for a complex problem that "some are just born that way" Case closed...
#31
You are talking about killing someone for stealing something (which is morally wrong) and I am talking about killing someone to save your own life or others. Different situation. To me your logic seems to be flawed. But we are all entitled to our own opinion and I appreciate that you shared yours.
ケンセイ (#23)

It really is hard to tell. On the one hand, I agree with you that not everyone comes out of the prison with the clean slate. On the other hand, I also know that there are people who have committed murder, spent years in prison, and are back in society trying to "live right." The price they have to pay for taking a life is the time in prison and what they go through inside it.

Yes, I am speaking as an idealist, but I've been trying to live as an idealist as well. :-)
People can be trained to kill but Japan doesn't have compulsory military service & so far I haven't heard that Ichihashi has had any.
I would like to know if countries that does have it, like Korea, has a bigger problem with killings.
We don't hear much about Korean murderers in Japan's news so if anyone can enlighten us on it, I look forward to hearing it.

Thanks #34. I read that after posting.


#32

What? No... you misunderstood me. I was talking about stealing, not killing. its still morally wrong and i would not do it... But if I have the choice between starving and stealing I'd rather steal.
Kimi (#38)

I must agree with you on that. "Well fed, well bred."

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