I feel so sorry that you can't even be proud of your own country and your own background.
Inning 10
Hello, Guys.
I want to know your opinion about the planted Korean flag on the mound.
Japanese team won the victory in WBC. And, related news is reported every day.
Some news reports that Korean player planted their national flag on the mound.
And they are object of critics.
Some Japanese regard the incident as special opportunity for putting Koreans down.
I don’t intend to do so. It is ridiculous.
But, to be honest, I also don’t feel that Korean player’s conduct is nice action.
For, maybe I feel something about their manifestation for sense of territory.
Do I feel so because I am Japanese?
Does the international relation between Japan and Korea encourage me to think so?
How do you feel Korean player’s behavior?
Please tell me, especially not Japanese people.
I want to know your opinion about the planted Korean flag on the mound.
Japanese team won the victory in WBC. And, related news is reported every day.
Some news reports that Korean player planted their national flag on the mound.
And they are object of critics.
Some Japanese regard the incident as special opportunity for putting Koreans down.
I don’t intend to do so. It is ridiculous.
But, to be honest, I also don’t feel that Korean player’s conduct is nice action.
For, maybe I feel something about their manifestation for sense of territory.
Do I feel so because I am Japanese?
Does the international relation between Japan and Korea encourage me to think so?
How do you feel Korean player’s behavior?
Please tell me, especially not Japanese people.
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it's more along the lines of "childish" and a sign of "poor sportsmanship"
I did notice that a couple of the Korean players took their medals off soon after getting them!
I think that any player from whatever country that displays any such actions should not be allowed to play in future tournaments!
I did notice that a couple of the Korean players took their medals off soon after getting them!
I think that any player from whatever country that displays any such actions should not be allowed to play in future tournaments!
that was a bit childish.
Granted, it was a close game.
But as an american who watched the game, once the koreans did that...that shows that they were wrongly trying to show superiority in the "sore-loser" kind of way.
It may have been better to plant it somewhere else...maybe...but not the mound
Granted, it was a close game.
But as an american who watched the game, once the koreans did that...that shows that they were wrongly trying to show superiority in the "sore-loser" kind of way.
It may have been better to plant it somewhere else...maybe...but not the mound
Mixed feelings on this.
1. Meh. It's just athletes celebrating a win, it's like an end-zone dance. It's not good sportsmanship, but then these guys aren't UN diplomats.
2. It's kind of stupid to celebrate a 4-1 win over the team that stomped you 14-2 the week before.
3. Japan ought to be big enough to shrug off this sort of thing. When you're trying to keep cordial relations with a country you used to occupy, you can't get all snippy about symbolic little stuff.
4. Meh.
1. Meh. It's just athletes celebrating a win, it's like an end-zone dance. It's not good sportsmanship, but then these guys aren't UN diplomats.
2. It's kind of stupid to celebrate a 4-1 win over the team that stomped you 14-2 the week before.
3. Japan ought to be big enough to shrug off this sort of thing. When you're trying to keep cordial relations with a country you used to occupy, you can't get all snippy about symbolic little stuff.
4. Meh.
As a Japanese national, I'd say, let them do whatever they want, and let them bury whatever they like anywhere they feel like.
Because at the end of the day, it's their loss. I just hope those poor buggers will someday realise that it's their dignity lost in the result of that sort of behaviour, not ours.
I think it's sad and pathetic that their nationalism is only built on such negative feelings like hatred, anger, and grudges, considering they have got heaps more than that to offer.
EVOLVE, KOREA.
EVOLVE.
Because at the end of the day, it's their loss. I just hope those poor buggers will someday realise that it's their dignity lost in the result of that sort of behaviour, not ours.
I think it's sad and pathetic that their nationalism is only built on such negative feelings like hatred, anger, and grudges, considering they have got heaps more than that to offer.
EVOLVE, KOREA.
EVOLVE.
Is it OK to fly any flags in the first place? Isn't it insulting? Isn't it un-sprotsman-like?
No flag is needed from the very beginning. Ban the flags forever from the sports world and the real world too, and just play. That's more peaceful, friendly, sane.
Flags are idiotic, childish, insane.
No flag is needed from the very beginning. Ban the flags forever from the sports world and the real world too, and just play. That's more peaceful, friendly, sane.
Flags are idiotic, childish, insane.
I think it's all fine.
I don't know well about Korean culture, but it might be their traditional way of celebrating.
Supposed they've burnt Japanese flag on the mound as they are always doing in front of Japanese embassy in Seoul, it would be a problem and we should treat as a diplomatic issue. But this time they used so much small their flag. Nothing bothers me.
Anyway, WE WON!! Everything OK, guys
After the final game, we held our Japanese flag million times bigger than theirs and moved around the stadium.
I don't know well about Korean culture, but it might be their traditional way of celebrating.
Supposed they've burnt Japanese flag on the mound as they are always doing in front of Japanese embassy in Seoul, it would be a problem and we should treat as a diplomatic issue. But this time they used so much small their flag. Nothing bothers me.
Anyway, WE WON!! Everything OK, guys
After the final game, we held our Japanese flag million times bigger than theirs and moved around the stadium.
I have a friend who commentates on the baseball....during the
Sydney Olympics he spoke to some of the Korean journalists
at the baseball and they told him the Korean team trained to
give them the best chance of beating Japan, as opposed to
giving them the best chance of winning the tournament.
It's more than just a friendly rivalry. It makes me think of that
famous ice hockey game between Russia and Czechoslovakia.
I think it was Czechoslovakia. Anyway it was just after Russia
sent in their tanks....the ref was pointless, what they needed
was peacekeepers with guns, the game was a bloodbath.
Sydney Olympics he spoke to some of the Korean journalists
at the baseball and they told him the Korean team trained to
give them the best chance of beating Japan, as opposed to
giving them the best chance of winning the tournament.
It's more than just a friendly rivalry. It makes me think of that
famous ice hockey game between Russia and Czechoslovakia.
I think it was Czechoslovakia. Anyway it was just after Russia
sent in their tanks....the ref was pointless, what they needed
was peacekeepers with guns, the game was a bloodbath.
why should i be proud of my country? Is it a rule or something? Who are you people to tell me how to feel about anyting, including flags?
Are you proud of your prefecture? Then you should respect your prefectural flag. Do you? If not, why? Because the very idea is idiotic from the beginning. Prefecture is here without a flag. The same goes to nations. And before nations, there are lands without any names. I personally respect that state. Not the divided, antagonistic nations. Yes, why don't we just be EARTHIANs? Then all stupid flags are not needed. More flags, more troubles. Can't you see that?
Are you proud of your prefecture? Then you should respect your prefectural flag. Do you? If not, why? Because the very idea is idiotic from the beginning. Prefecture is here without a flag. The same goes to nations. And before nations, there are lands without any names. I personally respect that state. Not the divided, antagonistic nations. Yes, why don't we just be EARTHIANs? Then all stupid flags are not needed. More flags, more troubles. Can't you see that?
Thank you fenomas,
It seems those who don't respect people tend to respect flags, nations, etc. Because then at least they can say they respect something. It's a poor substitute.
So when a person says he/she loves a nation, let's check if he/she is really a loving, caring person. If not, let's laugh. Because it's a bad joke.
It seems those who don't respect people tend to respect flags, nations, etc. Because then at least they can say they respect something. It's a poor substitute.
So when a person says he/she loves a nation, let's check if he/she is really a loving, caring person. If not, let's laugh. Because it's a bad joke.
please corrct me if wrong. koreans only plant their flags when they beat japan for just getting the first place to championship round in los angeles. in my opinion this game did not eliminate anyone so does not really count anyway. i don't think koreans never did the same behavior to winning game against mexico or venezuela. only to game against japan. i have a friend who lives in los angeles and he went to the final game. he saw some koreans with big sign showing about some territory (island)issue of japan-korea saying that that island belongs to korea. according to my friend, it was so funny that he was showing it everytime when korean player got a base hit. i could really care less how koreans behave using their flag. i am glad they are proud of their flag. but at least we, japanese never do such kind of behavior. did we do such things after winning against usa? NO. did we do such things after against cuba? NO. ok, then did we do to koreans? of course NOT. my point is that i feel very bad for the some koreans (players/fans) that they always need to bring some political issues into the world of sports.
They won that game so I guess that symbolic flag planting was within reason although not very tasteful. But it pissed off the Japanese team enough to not let it happen again so maybe it was a good thing after all. I am actually a world Citizen and have a World Citizen passport issued to me here in Japan. If I can find it i will scan it and show everyone :)
>> -I'm from EARTH.
We are a peaceful, agrarian society....
>> To paraphrase Einstein, he who joyfully salutes a flag
>> has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him
>> the spinal cord would fully suffice.
patriots really annoy me. In Australia they put these dumb
"southern cross" stickers on their cars. I always think
those stickers are saying "Hey look at me! I'm stupid".
We are a peaceful, agrarian society....
>> To paraphrase Einstein, he who joyfully salutes a flag
>> has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him
>> the spinal cord would fully suffice.
patriots really annoy me. In Australia they put these dumb
"southern cross" stickers on their cars. I always think
those stickers are saying "Hey look at me! I'm stupid".
Sports. Again shouldn't be a place free from political statements.
It happens, especially in the Olympics, but it's nothing more
than annoying and distasteful. Be proud of your country and
sure it's nromal to enjoy beating your rivals, but
it should be strictly an athletic competition, and the flag
thing is taking it too far.
What was worse than the flag for me was the Dokdo signs.
I don't think I saw any Japanese with political signs
at the game, but I would have equally been annoyed if
they had.
But I think karma got to them. Korean fans were chanting, "Ichiro
sucks Ichiro sucks" right into the camera before commercial.
Then after commercial, Ichiro planted a perfect bunt single after.
Then we know what happened in the end.
It happens, especially in the Olympics, but it's nothing more
than annoying and distasteful. Be proud of your country and
sure it's nromal to enjoy beating your rivals, but
it should be strictly an athletic competition, and the flag
thing is taking it too far.
What was worse than the flag for me was the Dokdo signs.
I don't think I saw any Japanese with political signs
at the game, but I would have equally been annoyed if
they had.
But I think karma got to them. Korean fans were chanting, "Ichiro
sucks Ichiro sucks" right into the camera before commercial.
Then after commercial, Ichiro planted a perfect bunt single after.
Then we know what happened in the end.
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