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How easy is it for a foreigner with a student visa to visit China from Japan?

Has anyone ever been to China before. What should I know or purchase before I go to China? I plan on staying in Shanghai for a couple weeks, then travel throughout the country via train.

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[11] mixiユーザー 07月30日 15:52

Bring a camera and go to Tibet too.

[12] mixiユーザー 07月31日 05:02

Thanks for all the non-political responses. I appreciate it. I learned a lot.

I guess health is a big concern when going there. I'll make sure to bring some hand sanitizer. I never use it here in the states (by the way I am American), but I you guys are telling me I cant take that for granted.

I don't think I will be taking the advice about not eating at the food stands. I want to live the way the locals live. One of highlights, I think, about going to China is tasting it wide range of foods. I will purchase food from the street, but I won't complain if I get sick from it. And I actually want to try dog at least once while I am out there.

And thanks for the info about protecting myself from pick-pocketers. I'll make sure to have my money stashed in various places.

Do you think I should get travel insurance for my trip to China? Is it a necessity?

And about not bringing or leaving with anything politically sensitive. Would it be wise to leave my laptop in Japan? Is a digital camera safe to bring in? Am I subject to a search when entering and leaving the airport?

And about how much is a ticket to Shanghai, roundtrip from Tokyo or Nagoya? I would be leaving 01/24 and returning 02/26, give or take a couple days. I defintiley want to be in China for the spring festival. Next year is my year, the year of the ox.

[15] mixiユーザー 07月31日 10:13

People dismiss political considerations for travel too easily. We all have a responsiblity to care about how human beings are treated globally. When we ignore that for our own personal fun, we add to the harm done to those people. Change never comes from inaction or ignorance of the consequences of things we do. Change comes from being aware and making personal decisions in light of all the considerations. Political included.

As for the source. It was a CNN report on CNNJ and has run several times. Phone them up and ask if you doubt me.

[16] mixiユーザー 07月31日 11:09

Kelly I am going to China whether you like it or not. So go take your soapbox somewhere else, No one is listening.

Thanks for the reassurance about the electronics. I'll bring them. The total value will be less than $500, so if something were to happen, it can all be replaced. I'll just make sure to back everything up.

I tried to use IACE, but they only sell tickets to/from Japan from/to America. And HIS was only in Japanese. I couldn't get too far. My Japanese isn't that very good.

Any other websites where I can get some sample prices?

[17] mixiユーザー 07月31日 11:40

don't know how much the airticket is, but there are ferries leaving from Osaka or Kobe almost everyday, which cost 18000 yen for one-way if you're a student. it's worth a try:) it takes 2 days to shanghai though…

[19] mixiユーザー 07月31日 12:32

Kelly I suggest you start another thread about the Human rights abuses related to the Olympics.
I saw the report on CNNJ and it was unbelievable, terrible, and I agree with you completely.
This can not be ignored. But as you see, no one gives a shit about things that don`t concern them. Sad indeed. I feel for the people displaced because of the Olympics. The Chinese government just wants to show off, look good in the eyes of the world and they are doing it at the expense of their own people. Just like when they built the great wall. Millions died in forced slave labor
for that. And it was all for nothing. In the end it failed to stop their enemies.

So everyone go to China and enjoy yourselves. But don`t forget what is going on behind the scenes so you can eat your dog.

[21] mixiユーザー 07月31日 13:00

TokyoOG. Sadly you are right. As long as we are comfortable we don't care that others are not. Nice modern thinking and values and a tribute to human character.

Have fun in China. At least some people out there care enough about people to be a little inconvenienced. And I'll take my soap box wherever it is needed thank you.

[22] mixiユーザー 07月31日 13:20

"As long as we are comfortable we don't care that others are not" And this is the main reason there are Terrorist in the world today. To make us uncomfortable enough to pay attention and care. But as you see no one has learned that lesson yet. Pay attention to the plights of others or it can come back to slap you in the face in your own backyard. That seems to be the only thing that makes people care and take notice. Why is that ? Shameful.

[23] mixiユーザー 07月31日 14:20

TokyoOG. I'm happy to hear someone else understands blowback. Simple cause and effect. Support an oppressive government and when conflict against it begins we are targets too. Make bad policy decisions and individuals far removed from it are placed at risk.

China is a great place for corporations to make money, but it is also a powder keg of groups that are increasingly upset about their conditions. We've already seen uprisings and it is likely that we'll see much more in the future. And terrorism is a very real possibility as powerless groups look for ways to fight back.

At some point we have to stop supporting bad governments. Going to China this year is sending the wrong message to their government. They are hoping people will ignore the issues there and support the Olympics and tourism anyway. And if that happens they can carry on with repressive policies in confidence that there are no consequences for them.

That is why it is so important not to go this year and why it may truly help people if we boycott China in 2008. And believe me I have been wanting to go there for a while. But this is the right choice when thinking about the bigger picture.

[25] mixiユーザー 07月31日 18:13

[26] mixiユーザー 07月31日 18:14

[27] mixiユーザー 07月31日 18:36

oh wait, thought I'd say no offense to the japanese or the chinese cause i like both the same

[28] mixiユーザー 07月31日 19:00

Heres some more.... The Japanese retaliate and kill all of Bruce Lee's fellow students and friends. So Lee goes back for more revenge.

[29] mixiユーザー 07月31日 19:01

[30] mixiユーザー 07月31日 19:06

i guess it will be bit difficult for you to visit china because most of the chinese people want to cheat the japanese people .. i really don't know why they wanna do that..

i will recommend you to vist the beautiful hunza valley when you are in china.. it is very near from china you will inter in the pakistan from the khunjerab pass and you will see very beautiful and high mountains which are in hunza.. hunza starts from the khunjerab pass.....

http://hunzaholidaysplus.com

[31] mixiユーザー 07月31日 22:24

Hey all,

Thanks again. That cruise type ferry ship looks great. I will probably use that as my transportation to Shanghai. Thank you so much. Japan is so close to China, I was wondering if it were possible to go there via boat. Excellent idea. But I will also check out some of the travel agencies in Japan. They have some better deals.

I'll definitely try the food you recommended. It seems really good.

Any other things I should know about getting along with the Chinese. As of now I just have a Chinese vocabulary of a few words. And I can't use the tones at all. Haha. So I will definitely have to do some intense studying.

To get in good with the locals, I was thinking about purchasing a Yao Ming jersey. I know he is one of the biggest celebrities in the country.

Anything else?

[32] mixiユーザー 07月31日 22:52

http://www.shinganjin.com/index_e.php
http://www.shanghai-ferry.co.jp/english/index.html

here are details.. hope these help:)

[33] mixiユーザー 07月31日 23:23

Bruce Lee was my hero in High school. I still get chills watching those famous scenes.
That was great. Thanks Bone. Bruce also had his negative moments with the Chinese government and traditional policies of the Kung fu community.

[34] mixiユーザー 08月01日 06:07

Younger Chinese people feel almost no resentment toward Japanese people, it's mostly the older generations. Just as a random tidbit :)

The problem with boybotting China is that it leads to the boycott of unrelated issues. For example, the May earthquakes left a death toll of over 50,000, but people were astonished at the lack of support being given to the injured and homeless. The main reason that arose from this was that people did not agree with China's treatment of countries like Tibet, although the earthquake affected Tibet as well. Comments like those of Sharon Stone (relating it to Karma) outraged many with their insensitivity and ignorance. Passive-aggressive behavior tends to blur the line between China and the Chinese government. By boycotting China, you hurt the whole population.

I'm tired!! So I don't know if that's really as eloquent as I'd like it to be. -shrugs- Again, this is my take on the issue, and I don't agree with boycotting.

[35] mixiユーザー 08月01日 06:38

What is wrong with you? Open up a thread on Chinese politics. I'll argue with you there. If you have any tips about travelling to China, not the ethics of it, the go somewhere else.

The annoyance of your postings does not help your cause at all. Do you think I am any more likely to agree with your point of view if the thread I created to talk about travel is taken over by hippies that don't know what they are talking about?

Please don't leave any more comments if you want to talk about politics. Or post youtube videos that have nothing to do with the subject. I don't think I am the only one that has a problem with your topic hijacking.

[40] mixiユーザー 08月01日 15:13

Well, my reference to the numbers was to compare it to other calamities (such as 9/11, which received much more attention because it was based in the US). I didn't mean to come off as generalizing the situation, I was just trying to discourage boycotting as I see it to be an immature reaction.

ANYWAY back to travel tips x] Where are you going, exactly?

[41] mixiユーザー 08月01日 15:52

when i went to shanghai, i had a good time at O'malleys.
it's an irish themed bar and i visited there on my b-day which is st. pattie's day.
you know the rest.

but hey, i am not sure visiting china right now...
but nobody should stop ya if you wanna go. bon voyage and be safe, party safe.

[42] mixiユーザー 08月01日 16:21

Oh god. Why do these message topics always go into this crap. People just always feel they need to hijack a thread to voice whatever they want to say instead of starting their own thread about it. Way to stay on topic.

Sorry for offending, but I think I was offended first.

[45] mixiユーザー 08月01日 22:34

>I don't think I will be taking the advice about not eating at the food stands. I want to live the way the locals live. One of highlights, I think, about going to China is tasting it wide range of foods. I will purchase food from the street, but I won't complain if I get sick from it.

I like your words!!
There is always some people has not been to China, but talks like he knows everything about China. I think that the best way to understand China is to visit this country, take some Chinese food, talk with Chinese people, and you will get your own feelings about China.
Of course, there are too many news about China on youtube/BBC/CNN, but are these news 100% true, I really dont think so...
Also I admit that there are a lot of problems now in China, but I think that anyone who really care of China will not boycott China, but help China.
And I am proud of I am Chinese, you know I learned the most difficult language easily and I can understand the culture with 5000 years easily!!

[47] mixiユーザー 08月02日 00:07

another advice on a ferry trip.
prepare a lot of instant noodles.
food in the restaurant is not bad but not cheap either.

if you have chance to go to the east part,
definitely visit jiuzaigou九寨溝.
try to avoid high season though.

[48] mixiユーザー 08月03日 16:18

Yatai food, and food from the small shops along the street are the best and worth the risk. Those are very beautiful pictures above. I would love to see that place in person. Amazing.

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