" He is not a greater singer than he thinks he is." This sentence appeared in the entrance exam for a Tokyo university. In the test this sentence is considered to be wrong. But I don't understand why this is unnatural. So I need someone to explain this to me.
I think the reason the sentence is considered wrong is because of the intended meaning. When someone says a sentence like that, I think that the meaning they are trying to convey is, "He is not as good of a singer as he thinks he is".
Grammatically, "He is not a greater singer than he thinks he is," is correct, but i have never heard anyone say anything like that, ever.
I agree with Sean. In fact, I remember learning in school that it's more "appropriate" to say "A is not as <adjectvie> as B" than to say "A is not <adjective + er> than B."
Now, whether or not you need "of" in the sentence is another question. When speaking, I would probably say it just like Sean wrote above, but grammatically speaking, I belive the correct format is "He is not as good a singer as he thinks he is."
Wow, thats kind of messy. I think even english speaking poeple would get confused at some entry exam.
haha, i think they dont want people entering the university
You're actually right. College entrance exams are usually designed to filter people out rather than to choose the good candidates. The more confusing, the better!
Mac, the sentence example is completely wrong. It even sounds wrong to a native speaker. Gramatically, words like "greater" and "better" are called "comparative degree". When you use a comparative degree you must compare two items. So saying something like "He is not a greater singer than Elvis." would be correct, because you're comparing "him" with "Elvis".
Like Sean said, "He is not as great of a singer as he thinks he is." would be the correct version of that sentence.
Maーサージ is correct. The test's sentence took the two different grammar formulas (positive comparative: 'A is___+er than B', and negative comparative: 'not as _____ as/of') and fused them together in the same sentence.
"Not" and an "adjective+er" aren't found together in proper English (though in some slightly more archaic forms, you might see "no" paired with adjective+er in a negative compartive statement.
e.g. "She is no richer than Bob." --or-- "This is no more expensive than that."
When the sentence is a reflexive comparative statement (that is, the subject and the object being compared are the same) we use the word "think" (or some synonymous verb such as 'consider' or 'perceive'), as the test's sentence does. "I'm better at English than I thought [I was]." "He isn't as great as he thinks he is." or "He isn't as great a singer as he thinks he is."
Sorry Maーサージ and Sean, but I'm afraid "He is not as great of a singer as he thinks he is," is wrong. You need to get rid of the "of" to make it correct.
I really thank you all for all those opinions and explanations kindly given. I understand the reason at last.
Then, what do you think of this sentence, #1 "I am better off than I used to be." and #2 "I am not better off than I used to be." In here, the subject is not compared with others, either.
I don't have any problem with #1. As for #2, I would probably say "I am not any better off than I used to be." I don't think the original sentence is grammatically incorrect, though. "I'm not better off than I used to be" has a different meaning than "I am not as well off as I used to be."
The structure is mixed together. I have problems sometimes when people translate Japanese into English. Sometimes my Fiancee makes no sense! But to him it makes perfect sense. He is not as great a singer as he thinks he is, is what I would have wrote.
It depends what you call acceptable... I'd say that "I am no better off than I used to be," is more natural.
Part of the problem here is that grammar isn't the answer to every question about language. Usage is very important too. Some structures which appear to be grammatically possible (i.e. they don't break any rules) are not at all natural, so it's important to notice what people really say and write.
I'd love to discuss this a bit further, but I'm writing an essay now and I'd better get back to it... :(