I just started studying japanese after christmas. I guess I'm doing alright, but my friend said it took her 9 years to get where she is at in english. I was wondering how long it took for you guys to learn. Also tell me if you learned your language in the country or out of the country. I'm learning mine out of Japan right now, but I'm moving to japan soon. Oh yea I'm only halfway through the 2nd grade kanji, so I have a long way to go.
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It's different for everyone.
I started to learn very young (8 years old)...but because I'm not around Japanese constantly, there is still so much to learn!
Also, you have to remember that there are different dialcts and slang.
Until you actually live there, and use the language everyday, it will take awhile before you are fluent.
As long as you know what you need to survive in Japan, you will be fine.
But remember....you wil never be 100% knowledgeable in a second language.
I started to learn very young (8 years old)...but because I'm not around Japanese constantly, there is still so much to learn!
Also, you have to remember that there are different dialcts and slang.
Until you actually live there, and use the language everyday, it will take awhile before you are fluent.
As long as you know what you need to survive in Japan, you will be fine.
But remember....you wil never be 100% knowledgeable in a second language.
I think that moving to the country which of the language you want to learn. Take me for the example, i have been learning Japanese for 6 years. I never lived or studyed in Japan. I just study Japanese in Taiwan as possible as I can.
Although my Japanese frineds talk to me that my Japanese is good, i understand that my Japanese is not good enough, because my Japanese is Tawinese Japanese. So, i plan to live in Japan for a while.
Anyway, in my thought, learning languages is not for speaking them perfectly, the point is to know the culture and make communication.
just my thought......
Although my Japanese frineds talk to me that my Japanese is good, i understand that my Japanese is not good enough, because my Japanese is Tawinese Japanese. So, i plan to live in Japan for a while.
Anyway, in my thought, learning languages is not for speaking them perfectly, the point is to know the culture and make communication.
just my thought......
When you come to Japan and start working, I'm sure your Japanese will be better and better day by day. When I studied English in Japan, I tried so hard and I was quite confident in my english, but after I left Japan and studied English overseas, unexpectedly my english got improved. Never thought that level before... but now... I don't know... I must keep speaking English or writing some messages like this in english and then, I think I can maintain my level of english.. Language is never ending!!
I was studying Japanese in NYC for a little while, and
I thought my Japanese would be OK when I got to Tokyo.
Wrong!! I had to start from the beginning again.
I have been in Tokyo for a year now, and my Japanese
has improved a lot, but I still have a long way to go.
I hear it takes most foreigners 3 years to speak and
understand Japanese at a comfortable level. Those
people who study, that is. A lot of foreigners that
live in Japan, don't even try to learn the language.
Kanji is a whole different story. Thank God for the
electri dictionary!!
I thought my Japanese would be OK when I got to Tokyo.
Wrong!! I had to start from the beginning again.
I have been in Tokyo for a year now, and my Japanese
has improved a lot, but I still have a long way to go.
I hear it takes most foreigners 3 years to speak and
understand Japanese at a comfortable level. Those
people who study, that is. A lot of foreigners that
live in Japan, don't even try to learn the language.
Kanji is a whole different story. Thank God for the
electri dictionary!!
I'm taking the 1kyu test this year for Japanese. I passed 2kyu in 2005. 2 classes over the course of two years in college in the States. 1 year intensive study in Japan at Shizuoka University. Including my study time at Shiz I've lived here for 2 years and 8 months.
It is all about motivation I think. But being here is a BIG plus.
It is all about motivation I think. But being here is a BIG plus.
I'm nowhere near fluent yet, but even if I could participate in everyday life and read books etc in Japanese, i reckon I'll always be learning new things. Language changes all the time. I'm fluent in English, but when I read certain books etc, I dont always fully understand everything all the time. Not cos I'm thick (!) but because there will always be words that you have no use for.
I am japanese,I can't say how long you would need to imrove your Japanese skills enough to communicate. No interesting idea for you,maybe.
I just guess that if you learn other countries language,you also need to get enought knowledge of their culture, history and mannarism so on.I think more foreingers can excel in this area more than native one.
Also communication skills are needed.It's kind of humane skills, some people are great about that.
Probably you can't master second language perfectly,but in some area, there can do better than native one.
I just guess that if you learn other countries language,you also need to get enought knowledge of their culture, history and mannarism so on.I think more foreingers can excel in this area more than native one.
Also communication skills are needed.It's kind of humane skills, some people are great about that.
Probably you can't master second language perfectly,but in some area, there can do better than native one.
Hmm.. Like Satomi said, Attitude is more important then the length of time..
I've been studying Japanese for 5 years..
I think I'm doing pretty good. Although, I have only been studying how to speak in Japanese..
I really have no interest in reading Japanese. So i focus a lot of my study on grammar and Vocabulary..
It's a lot of fun being able to speak another language. So, I really put no concern into reading. Since I have no need to read or write in Japanese.
I speak better Japanese than most people that have studied in Japan for a year or more.. Although, They can beat me without a doubt in Reading/Writing.. But, They don't seem to be able to communicate as good.. Bwahaha...
I've been studying Japanese for 5 years..
I think I'm doing pretty good. Although, I have only been studying how to speak in Japanese..
I really have no interest in reading Japanese. So i focus a lot of my study on grammar and Vocabulary..
It's a lot of fun being able to speak another language. So, I really put no concern into reading. Since I have no need to read or write in Japanese.
I speak better Japanese than most people that have studied in Japan for a year or more.. Although, They can beat me without a doubt in Reading/Writing.. But, They don't seem to be able to communicate as good.. Bwahaha...
ウィール、Teddy> I know you see no reason to speak or read Japanese for yourself and that is fine, but I wanted to warn Teddy that I have a lot of friends who tell the same story you do, but are kicking themselves now because they decided they want to use it as an asset for a job, but nobody takes them seriously because they have nothing to prove their ability on paper.
I am Japanese and teach Japanese to business persons. I can't tell how long it takes. I have seen some who got Japanese language quickly and others who don't even if they have been in Japan for years. I think it depends on yourself.
Daily practice is important. Learning foreign languages is endless. Just enjoy it.
Daily practice is important. Learning foreign languages is endless. Just enjoy it.
Yes, I do agree that it depends on individuals.
I am in US now and I met many international students who study English here. Some stay in US more than 4 years but their English is not so good, but others who stay in US for 2 years but speak English so fluently.
So I do think it's up to how hard you study and how much you think, listen and speak in Japanese.
I am in US now and I met many international students who study English here. Some stay in US more than 4 years but their English is not so good, but others who stay in US for 2 years but speak English so fluently.
So I do think it's up to how hard you study and how much you think, listen and speak in Japanese.
Aki-mixi I agree as well. I live in San Diego, and although I don't start my Japanese lessons until next school year, I have taken Spanish beginning at 11 years old. I strongly dislike the language, and learning it, along with most of the music & it's TV shows, and with my negative attitude, it shows why I am so bad at speaking it, almost as if I have learned absolutely nothing every year.
It depends on how Interested you are in the language& culture, and how bad you want to learn it.
I agree with learning a language 100% is uncommon, No one knows any language 100% not even native speakers. ever come across a word you don't know?
fluency depends on your ability to read and write, and your ability to be able to speak it, as if it is your native language,not have to sit and translate into your language first
It depends on how Interested you are in the language& culture, and how bad you want to learn it.
I agree with learning a language 100% is uncommon, No one knows any language 100% not even native speakers. ever come across a word you don't know?
fluency depends on your ability to read and write, and your ability to be able to speak it, as if it is your native language,not have to sit and translate into your language first
my first language was japanese, but my english is way better except pronounciation. people hear a slight accent.
but i've met people who started learning english in junior high and are way better than me in grammar and vocabulary, and even slang or sayings. and i know they're hell of a lot better than a lot of people who only know one language.
didn't we have this conversation before? who's got perfect language anyways??
but i've met people who started learning english in junior high and are way better than me in grammar and vocabulary, and even slang or sayings. and i know they're hell of a lot better than a lot of people who only know one language.
didn't we have this conversation before? who's got perfect language anyways??
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