Around this time of a year
lots of us get involved in job hunting activities, what's called "Shuushoku Katsudou".
Out there you might see many young people in their suits who are not "Salary-man."
In Japan, in an ordinary case, we start taking an action when we're in 3rd grade of bachelor
or 1st grade of master, which is, 1 year before graduation (if you're in university).
And this "Shinsotsu (newly graduating student)" is supposed to be special status compared to others trying to find or change his/her job.
Most of my foreign friends are surprised when they know this custom,
just like "How come you've gotta get a job 1 year before you actually start working??"
So
Is this rite only in Japan?
If that's the case, how and when you hunt a job in your country after or before graduation?
From my experience, at least I know how to get part-time job in Canada.
I brought resumes with me all the time and applied directly to employer in person,
which finally worked well for me.
Or you might use internet to search, even to apply for the job.
Is it same for any university student?
Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks!
lots of us get involved in job hunting activities, what's called "Shuushoku Katsudou".
Out there you might see many young people in their suits who are not "Salary-man."
In Japan, in an ordinary case, we start taking an action when we're in 3rd grade of bachelor
or 1st grade of master, which is, 1 year before graduation (if you're in university).
And this "Shinsotsu (newly graduating student)" is supposed to be special status compared to others trying to find or change his/her job.
Most of my foreign friends are surprised when they know this custom,
just like "How come you've gotta get a job 1 year before you actually start working??"
So
Is this rite only in Japan?
If that's the case, how and when you hunt a job in your country after or before graduation?
From my experience, at least I know how to get part-time job in Canada.
I brought resumes with me all the time and applied directly to employer in person,
which finally worked well for me.
Or you might use internet to search, even to apply for the job.
Is it same for any university student?
Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks!
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In the United states. Generally basic Administration and Arts type degrees are not in a pool of recruitment. Those that have technical degrees are often scouted during their 2nd year and have opportunities to work on industry or government projects. These companies have joint development and or apprentice work in the University. From this resource generally students are recruited and have jobs waiting for them. In most cases it is the top percentile of their class and the projects they are actively working on. The students can also do internships in that industry to gain the experience.
For Engineering students this is very critical in which institution you attend. When I began my University studies I was being catered or sent through a prosthetics medicine pipeline, With a preplanned and guided journey on which university to attend, courses, and professors, also what extra curricular club and development activities. To accomplish this task I attended 3 separate universities.
Strong companies tend to want to mold the education of their workforce to cater to their needs. Which is very true to the United states Technology sectors.
Others that are attending general educational studies, would be wise to seek out options during their second and third years, Speak with Human resource managers in large business's to gain an understanding of what the model recruit is for their business. Human resource managers are very positive in this regard and like to meet young university students and counsel them on their futures.
Your best guidance counselor will always be one that is actively working in the industry and not your general knowledge parrot selling wares to gain admission dollars for their university.
For Engineering students this is very critical in which institution you attend. When I began my University studies I was being catered or sent through a prosthetics medicine pipeline, With a preplanned and guided journey on which university to attend, courses, and professors, also what extra curricular club and development activities. To accomplish this task I attended 3 separate universities.
Strong companies tend to want to mold the education of their workforce to cater to their needs. Which is very true to the United states Technology sectors.
Others that are attending general educational studies, would be wise to seek out options during their second and third years, Speak with Human resource managers in large business's to gain an understanding of what the model recruit is for their business. Human resource managers are very positive in this regard and like to meet young university students and counsel them on their futures.
Your best guidance counselor will always be one that is actively working in the industry and not your general knowledge parrot selling wares to gain admission dollars for their university.
for your information i'm not going for any job in which English is must.
in my point of view English is just a tool.
what you pass on using English (as a tool) is all that counts.
and WHERE is "correct" English?
your comment implies you know everything about "correct" English which doesn't seem to exist.
the dumbest comment i've ever come across...
if you're stuck with "correct" English, start every sentence with a capitalized letter.
you just showed how ignorant you are...
in my point of view English is just a tool.
what you pass on using English (as a tool) is all that counts.
and WHERE is "correct" English?
your comment implies you know everything about "correct" English which doesn't seem to exist.
the dumbest comment i've ever come across...
if you're stuck with "correct" English, start every sentence with a capitalized letter.
you just showed how ignorant you are...
this is the internet, i dont need to start sentences with a capital letter, nor do i need to use apostrophes, etc.
you sound like a typical japanese drone "english is just a tool." ugh.
here are examples of your failure at english.
"How to hunt a job?"
"and WHERE is "correct" English? " i like how the word you emphasized is wrong.
"Around this time of a year
lots of us get involved in job hunting activities, what's called "Shuushoku Katsudou".
Out there you might see many young people in their suits who are not "Salary-man.""
at least 5 mistakes here.
"In Japan, in an ordinary case, we start taking an action when we're in 3rd grade of bachelor
or 1st grade of master, which is, 1 year before graduation (if you're in university). "
at least 4 mistakes here.
"And this "Shinsotsu (newly graduating student)" is supposed to be special status compared to others trying to find or change his/her job. "
a couple mistakes here
"Most of my foreign friends are surprised when they know this custom,
just like "How come you've gotta get a job 1 year before you actually start working??""
a few mistakes here
"So
Is this rite only in Japan?
If that's the case, how and when you hunt a job in your country after or before graduation?"
numerous mistakes here
"From my experience, at least I know how to get part-time job in Canada.
I brought resumes with me all the time and applied directly to employer in person, "
numerous mistakes here
"which finally worked well for me.
Or you might use internet to search, even to apply for the job.
Is it same for any university student?
Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks!"
numerous mistakes here as well.
this community is called english only. not "fucked up english that is barely comprehensible."
and while i dont use capitals (or some punctuation because who has time for that shit?) due to my own laziness, my sentence structure is correct, of course i get an out because i am a native speaker but this is besides the point. and yes, i am going to be pedantic about this. forever. we are not tools here for you to practice your english.
you sound like a typical japanese drone "english is just a tool." ugh.
here are examples of your failure at english.
"How to hunt a job?"
"and WHERE is "correct" English? " i like how the word you emphasized is wrong.
"Around this time of a year
lots of us get involved in job hunting activities, what's called "Shuushoku Katsudou".
Out there you might see many young people in their suits who are not "Salary-man.""
at least 5 mistakes here.
"In Japan, in an ordinary case, we start taking an action when we're in 3rd grade of bachelor
or 1st grade of master, which is, 1 year before graduation (if you're in university). "
at least 4 mistakes here.
"And this "Shinsotsu (newly graduating student)" is supposed to be special status compared to others trying to find or change his/her job. "
a couple mistakes here
"Most of my foreign friends are surprised when they know this custom,
just like "How come you've gotta get a job 1 year before you actually start working??""
a few mistakes here
"So
Is this rite only in Japan?
If that's the case, how and when you hunt a job in your country after or before graduation?"
numerous mistakes here
"From my experience, at least I know how to get part-time job in Canada.
I brought resumes with me all the time and applied directly to employer in person, "
numerous mistakes here
"which finally worked well for me.
Or you might use internet to search, even to apply for the job.
Is it same for any university student?
Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks!"
numerous mistakes here as well.
this community is called english only. not "fucked up english that is barely comprehensible."
and while i dont use capitals (or some punctuation because who has time for that shit?) due to my own laziness, my sentence structure is correct, of course i get an out because i am a native speaker but this is besides the point. and yes, i am going to be pedantic about this. forever. we are not tools here for you to practice your english.
All language is a tool for communication.
I for one would not mock or put someone down for their mistakes, especially I was unable to do better in a language not my own.
You don't bother with apostrophes etc. cos it's the internet, so it's ok. Isn't it just as ok for a non native speaker to make a post which despite being totally understandable, has a few mistakes?
In the UK jobs aren't always as set in stone pre graduation, I only know a few people who did anything like that. Maybe because graduation isn't a sure thing
I for one would not mock or put someone down for their mistakes, especially I was unable to do better in a language not my own.
You don't bother with apostrophes etc. cos it's the internet, so it's ok. Isn't it just as ok for a non native speaker to make a post which despite being totally understandable, has a few mistakes?
In the UK jobs aren't always as set in stone pre graduation, I only know a few people who did anything like that. Maybe because graduation isn't a sure thing
I can't speak for all majors, but I know students who major in education have to fight to find a good position. Teachers in American are unfortunately very under-appreciated and many positions are already filled by the time education majors graduate. I know a lot of us are already "teaching" but we're only interns so we get no pay and only a few of us get to keep our positions even after we graduate. Mostly, I think college students in America have part-time or full -time jobs that are not related to their majors. Everyone in College has been working since I know they were in High School so we do not worry about until we graduate College Finding a Real job.
I wish we did things the way they do them in Japan!
Anyway, I guess it really depends on what your major is or where you are in your education as to how you go about looking for a job in America. When I was in high school I would spend a few hours everyday driving around to any place nearby that had a job opening. After a week of filling out countless applications and printing out tons of resumes I was finally hired. I've been with this company for the past five years! This is a pretty common practice for someone with no higher education, or for someone looking for a low-paying job.
The college I attend has a very thorough network of information for teachers, including several national organizations that students may join and work with to network with various schools. Also, in my area, there are large gatherings once or twice a year, generally in the summer, where hundreds of school representatives gather and prospective teachers may go and pass out their resumes and schedule interviews.
Depending on the program some universities and colleges in America set it up so that their students are able to work out in their chosen field to earn credits for classes as well as to get their names out and let larger companies know that they have the experience of working in their field (even though they're really just interns, which makes them just above slaves!
).
I wish we did things the way they do them in Japan!
Anyway, I guess it really depends on what your major is or where you are in your education as to how you go about looking for a job in America. When I was in high school I would spend a few hours everyday driving around to any place nearby that had a job opening. After a week of filling out countless applications and printing out tons of resumes I was finally hired. I've been with this company for the past five years! This is a pretty common practice for someone with no higher education, or for someone looking for a low-paying job.
The college I attend has a very thorough network of information for teachers, including several national organizations that students may join and work with to network with various schools. Also, in my area, there are large gatherings once or twice a year, generally in the summer, where hundreds of school representatives gather and prospective teachers may go and pass out their resumes and schedule interviews.
Depending on the program some universities and colleges in America set it up so that their students are able to work out in their chosen field to earn credits for classes as well as to get their names out and let larger companies know that they have the experience of working in their field (even though they're really just interns, which makes them just above slaves!
).
Lord Vice san
i truly admire your every effort to find fault with my wrong English.
the fact that you could find what was wrong with my sentences means at least you understood what I wanted to say.
that matters to me.
but i realized that you didn't know anything about "communication."
and you'll never know as long as you try to find every single fault that others made..
i know that because i used to be there. hang on!
oh i have one question, what does it mean,
"i like how the word you emphasized is wrong."?
you use 2 verbs in one sentence.. i didn't get it. or is it "i like (that)" sentence?
but sorry, it might be because i'm not that good at English language.
so i'd appreciate if you could kindly tell me the meaning.
(i'm turning like you, ain't i? :P)
Ｊ美ー san
is graduation a hard thing in U.K.?
it may be very different from Japan..
and what kind of media you use to get a job?
Caitie san
thank you for your information!
i'm not familiar with how to get teaching jobs, but in Japan as well we have different process for being a teacher.
in Japan internship is not a must activity in most universities. it's just optional..
i think they should spread that kind of program more so that
we don't have to feel out of place after starting a job..
i truly admire your every effort to find fault with my wrong English.
the fact that you could find what was wrong with my sentences means at least you understood what I wanted to say.
that matters to me.
but i realized that you didn't know anything about "communication."
and you'll never know as long as you try to find every single fault that others made..
i know that because i used to be there. hang on!
oh i have one question, what does it mean,
"i like how the word you emphasized is wrong."?
you use 2 verbs in one sentence.. i didn't get it. or is it "i like (that)" sentence?
but sorry, it might be because i'm not that good at English language.
so i'd appreciate if you could kindly tell me the meaning.
(i'm turning like you, ain't i? :P)
Ｊ美ー san
is graduation a hard thing in U.K.?
it may be very different from Japan..
and what kind of media you use to get a job?
Caitie san
thank you for your information!
i'm not familiar with how to get teaching jobs, but in Japan as well we have different process for being a teacher.
in Japan internship is not a must activity in most universities. it's just optional..
i think they should spread that kind of program more so that
we don't have to feel out of place after starting a job..
あぽーさん and Everyone
Thank you for your posts. :)
From my limited experience, all of my former as well as present professional jobs have been achieved by referrals. So, my input is a cultural custom way is cool. My thought would be in order to have a higher level of success, then expanding your network would be advantageous for the current and future job market. :)
Hope this helps. ;)
When I studied on technical college in Germany, they said it's usual to initiate contacts with economy and employers quite some time before graduation. However, I droped out from collge and started a professional training.
So from my experience I can't tell you much about getting jobs for Uni students, especially since Japan and Germany are completely different countries. You surely now that because of the economic crisis, jobs are most hard to get for everyone atm. Just found a new one myself a month ago, after being unemployed for some time.
IMHO you should try for a job as soon as possible, and practical semesters or part time jobs at companies you are interested in can be a key to win the attention of someone important there.
So from my experience I can't tell you much about getting jobs for Uni students, especially since Japan and Germany are completely different countries. You surely now that because of the economic crisis, jobs are most hard to get for everyone atm. Just found a new one myself a month ago, after being unemployed for some time.
IMHO you should try for a job as soon as possible, and practical semesters or part time jobs at companies you are interested in can be a key to win the attention of someone important there.
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