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Why is that?

'Vise' president is not 'lieutenant' president.
'Lieutenant' governor is not 'deputy' governor.
'Deputy' mayor is not 'vice' mayor.

Are there any general rules for what words "vice", "lieutenant", and "deputy" are used, respectively?

I guess the reason of 'vice' president is evident when you see the predecessor of the sitting one :-)

By the way, Solicitor General is not an assistant/lieutenant Attorney General :-)
There is a position called Deputy Attorney General.

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[1] mixiユーザー 02月19日 10:23

Lieutenant is generally used in the military. Deputy is generally Law Enforcement (Police etc). Outside of that, there is no standard, it's just titles.

[2] mixiユーザー 02月19日 10:29

vice- is used for something that can take the place of something. So the vice-president will take the place of the president in an emergency if the president dies.

Deputy is like the number 2. The second person in charge.

Lieutenant is the really difficult one, Lieu means in place of, so it is often the person second in command. But it depends on where it's being used. A lieutenant in a police force is a high rank, a lot higher than a lieutenant in the army...

[3] mixiユーザー 02月19日 12:18

A little off, but I've been wondering what the standard pronunciation for "lieutenant" is. I was taught to say "leftenant" but everyone here (in the U.S.) says "lieu-tenant" (as it's spelt).

[4] mixiユーザー 02月19日 12:31

I've heard "left-tenant" but always with an british accent, so I assume its a European thing.

[5] mixiユーザー 02月19日 13:36

Either is fine. Lieutenant is the standard, I guess, since american movies and tv shows influence everyone's pronunciation. But either is ok :)

[6] mixiユーザー 02月19日 13:53

Oscar and J美一.

Thanks! I will be able to sleep peacefully tonight. :)

[8] mixiユーザー 02月19日 21:31

In Commonwealth countries (UK, Australia, New Zealand...maybe Canada)
you say "lef-tenant". In the U.S. it's "loo-tenat". It derives from a French
word and I wouldn't have a clue how they pronounce it.
My potted history according to Hornblower is that Lieutenant were a rank
beneath the Captain of the ship. If a ship were surrendered by the enemy
or taken as war bounty a lieutenant with a group of marines would take
command of the ship and return it to England or a nearby friendly port
where the prisoners could be handed over.

[9] mixiユーザー 02月20日 14:21

~ Ian, in Canada they will say lef-tenant on the news, or in conversation if you are talking about the government title, and if you are in the military I think you say lef-tenant too, but we are so american now that I say loo-tenant without thinking about it. :.-(

ahah, for all the ESL people reading this (native speakers: wait!), a bonus question:

Where would a loo-tenant live? |(>.<)/

[10] mixiユーザー 02月20日 14:42

Haha I guess only those who've been to the UK will get this one!

[11] mixiユーザー 02月20日 14:54

Jesse (#9)

>> Where would a loo-tenant live? |(>.<)/

LOL!

J美一 (#10)

So true, but you must pronounce it like the Americans here. How complicated. :)

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