They look like fruits to me.
i'm having a little discussion about this..
and thus, like some feed back from the educated folks on mixi.
My question is simple...
Is a TOMATO a "fruit" or a "vegetable"？
As a child, i was taught that a TOMATO was a fruit,
based on the principle it had seeds...
but, it seems like it's a hot topic, some Brits think it's a fruit...
some Japanese think it's a vegetable... Argh!!!
Which?
What do you think?
Comments please, please state your argument..
thanks...
and thus, like some feed back from the educated folks on mixi.
My question is simple...
Is a TOMATO a "fruit" or a "vegetable"？
As a child, i was taught that a TOMATO was a fruit,
based on the principle it had seeds...
but, it seems like it's a hot topic, some Brits think it's a fruit...
some Japanese think it's a vegetable... Argh!!!
Which?
What do you think?
Comments please, please state your argument..
thanks...
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This topic may be hot!! Because many people leave thier messeages and comments.
Really not a hot topic with only a few comments.
Actually, everyone may regard a tomato as a vegetable or as a fruit.
Both of ideas are going to be truth! I guess!!
[Is a TOMATO a "fruit" or a "vegetable"？] This question is not a exam of a school!!
But in Japan, a tomato is exactlly considered as a vegetable.
And I am engaged in research on "retinoid" that is natural and synthetic analog of retinoic acid that is main souce of Vitamin A a littele asociated with a tomato.
Here(mixi), I can not show someone the evidence that a tomato is classified into a sort of eggplant!! at least in Japan.
If you have some interests about that, please come to the organic meeting in japan 2007/11/23 at tokyo univ.
And in other countries , a tomato may be considered as a fruit.
But please do not do quarrel each other.
There are many people that have respective ideas.
I want to exchage languages with everyone pleasantly.
Really not a hot topic with only a few comments.
Actually, everyone may regard a tomato as a vegetable or as a fruit.
Both of ideas are going to be truth! I guess!!
[Is a TOMATO a "fruit" or a "vegetable"？] This question is not a exam of a school!!
But in Japan, a tomato is exactlly considered as a vegetable.
And I am engaged in research on "retinoid" that is natural and synthetic analog of retinoic acid that is main souce of Vitamin A a littele asociated with a tomato.
Here(mixi), I can not show someone the evidence that a tomato is classified into a sort of eggplant!! at least in Japan.
If you have some interests about that, please come to the organic meeting in japan 2007/11/23 at tokyo univ.
And in other countries , a tomato may be considered as a fruit.
But please do not do quarrel each other.
There are many people that have respective ideas.
I want to exchage languages with everyone pleasantly.
"Though it is botanically a fruit, the tomato is nutritionally categorized as a vegetable (see below). Since "vegetable" is not a botanical term, there is no contradiction in a plant part being a fruit botanically while still being considered a vegetable."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
While Wikipedia is not a 100% reliable source, I'm gonna go with this answer, since no body else bothered to give any source for their reasoning.
rajio: I think you are on to something ^__^
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
While Wikipedia is not a 100% reliable source, I'm gonna go with this answer, since no body else bothered to give any source for their reasoning.
rajio: I think you are on to something ^__^
It's a biological fruit. In botany it is considered a fruit.
#28, many vegetables are biological fruits as well. The "fruit" part is the ripe colourful outer part that attracts animals to disperse the seeds.
Having seeds doesn't make it a fruit.
But not everyone is a biologist. In normal life it is considered a vegetable because it isn't sweet. If you're not studying botany, then you don't need to know that it is a fruit. If you think it is a fruit, then you should have studied enough botany to understand what a fruit is.
#28, many vegetables are biological fruits as well. The "fruit" part is the ripe colourful outer part that attracts animals to disperse the seeds.
Having seeds doesn't make it a fruit.
But not everyone is a biologist. In normal life it is considered a vegetable because it isn't sweet. If you're not studying botany, then you don't need to know that it is a fruit. If you think it is a fruit, then you should have studied enough botany to understand what a fruit is.
From botanists' viewpoint, tomato which is sold at the supermarket is
DEFINITELY a fruit.
This simply means tomato is not a seed, nor a shoot, nor a flower.
I know we are not discussing things like this, but I wanted to make it clear first.
From the authority's viewpoint, (In Japan it refers to the National Institute
of Fruit Tree Science) all fruits MUST be born on trees and shrubs.
Under this definition, tomato, strawberry, honeydew and watermelon are,
believe it ot not, VEGETABLES.
From my personal point of view, all fruits must be eaten raw and should taste sweet to some degree.
Adversely vegetables must be cooked with heat except the case of salad.
And vegetables are generally not so sweet like ordinary fruits.
What do you guys think?
DEFINITELY a fruit.
This simply means tomato is not a seed, nor a shoot, nor a flower.
I know we are not discussing things like this, but I wanted to make it clear first.
From the authority's viewpoint, (In Japan it refers to the National Institute
of Fruit Tree Science) all fruits MUST be born on trees and shrubs.
Under this definition, tomato, strawberry, honeydew and watermelon are,
believe it ot not, VEGETABLES.
From my personal point of view, all fruits must be eaten raw and should taste sweet to some degree.
Adversely vegetables must be cooked with heat except the case of salad.
And vegetables are generally not so sweet like ordinary fruits.
What do you guys think?
I meant that it is a vegetable to common people, and a fruit to biologists. Just like the word "tomato" is the common name in one language. It is different in different countries. The scientific name is common to all languages and comes from Latin.
It's the ovary (one or many) of an angiosperm. Like I mentioned above, it is a "container" for storing and dispersing seeds. Even from the word "fruit" there are many types of biological fruit depending on the how the ovaries mature (seed location, is it aggregate?), the outer "shell" (does it have a rind?)...etc.
Even nuts and legumes are considered fruits. So it really is pointless to be talking about tomatoes as fruit if you haven't studied botany. There are too many biological fruits and you would have to reconsider everything you have learned in the non-biology-studying world.
If you have never studied botany and never plan to, it's a vegetable.
It's the ovary (one or many) of an angiosperm. Like I mentioned above, it is a "container" for storing and dispersing seeds. Even from the word "fruit" there are many types of biological fruit depending on the how the ovaries mature (seed location, is it aggregate?), the outer "shell" (does it have a rind?)...etc.
Even nuts and legumes are considered fruits. So it really is pointless to be talking about tomatoes as fruit if you haven't studied botany. There are too many biological fruits and you would have to reconsider everything you have learned in the non-biology-studying world.
If you have never studied botany and never plan to, it's a vegetable.
It is a fruit because of a surge of ripening ´´egg´´ of a flower and contains, in its interior, the seeds of the plant.
It is a fruit because it is a baga, such as grape, completely formed by the mature ´´egg´´.
Not a vegetable in that it is neither has pods.
Other fruits often wrongly taken as vegetables are: the beringela (Solanum melongena), cucumbers (Cucumis sativus), courgette (Cucurbita pepo),
The gourd (Abobra tenuifolia).
It is a fruit because it is a baga, such as grape, completely formed by the mature ´´egg´´.
Not a vegetable in that it is neither has pods.
Other fruits often wrongly taken as vegetables are: the beringela (Solanum melongena), cucumbers (Cucumis sativus), courgette (Cucurbita pepo),
The gourd (Abobra tenuifolia).
Pees (which come in pods) are also biological fruits. The seed is covered by the fruit.
Have you ever heard of parthenocarpic fruit? They're produced from using auxins rather than actual fertilization. They are the "seedless" version of fruits and veggies that are found at the market. They only contain the immature ovules, but are still considered biological fruits.
But still, many are only considered fruit biologically.
Why are people still arguing this? Hasn't it been determined already?
It doesn't matter if you are not a scientist, or more specifically a botanist. All that's left is for those who disagree to use their knowledge to prove someone else wrong. Why constantly repeat the same things that someone else has already said?
Have you ever heard of parthenocarpic fruit? They're produced from using auxins rather than actual fertilization. They are the "seedless" version of fruits and veggies that are found at the market. They only contain the immature ovules, but are still considered biological fruits.
But still, many are only considered fruit biologically.
Why are people still arguing this? Hasn't it been determined already?
It doesn't matter if you are not a scientist, or more specifically a botanist. All that's left is for those who disagree to use their knowledge to prove someone else wrong. Why constantly repeat the same things that someone else has already said?
Hi,
To all the people who say its a fruit, that is the correct answer.
The official way to class these plants as either a fruit or a vegetable is quite simple, yet unknown.
And although not many people will agree with this method, it is offical and will teach you new things.
A "Fruit" (aside from the seriously qwerky gay people) is a plant that has alot of flesh protecting its seeds, (e.g tomato) where as Vegetables are constituted by anything that grows underground. Where the edible bits grow underground to be more precise.
I hope people start understanding that fruits and vegetables are not judged by whether it tastes sweets or not, or whether is has seeds
Thank you
Felix Rohr
To all the people who say its a fruit, that is the correct answer.
The official way to class these plants as either a fruit or a vegetable is quite simple, yet unknown.
And although not many people will agree with this method, it is offical and will teach you new things.
A "Fruit" (aside from the seriously qwerky gay people) is a plant that has alot of flesh protecting its seeds, (e.g tomato) where as Vegetables are constituted by anything that grows underground. Where the edible bits grow underground to be more precise.
I hope people start understanding that fruits and vegetables are not judged by whether it tastes sweets or not, or whether is has seeds
Thank you
Felix Rohr
hey all. i took the advise of fenomas and went to wikipedia as im not a biologist of any description, though i always believed it to be a fruit.
From wiki pedia:
"Botanically, a tomato is the ovary, together with its seeds, of a flowering plant: a fruit or, more precisely, a berry. However, the tomato is not as sweet as those foodstuffs usually called fruits and, from a culinary standpoint, it is typically served as part of a salad or main course of a meal, as are vegetables, rather than at dessert, as are fruits. As noted above, the term "vegetable" has no botanical meaning and is purely a culinary term."
As you can see it is clearly established as a fruit. and if you were to read the entire remainder of the article on tomatoes, it is refered to as a fruit the whole way through.
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