right?
I met an american who said that the police stop 2 or 3 times a week asking to show his ID card.. I have been stopped once for checking my bicycle's number..but never while I was walking!!
Do the police stop foreigners that often??
How often has the police stopped you in the street asking your ID???
Do the police stop foreigners that often??
How often has the police stopped you in the street asking your ID???
|
|
|
|
コメント(100)
I can make out Koreans out of Japanese easily. I'm a Japanese Korean. But it's sometimes hard to distinguish Koreans and Chinese. There is always some exceptions though. Some Japanese look like Chinese and some Koreans appear like Chinese, and some Koreans look difinitely Japanese..
No idea how a policeman makes out who's who, slight difference in pronounciation and foreign registration card maybe. those who see or work with a lot of foreigners everyday may be able to.
No idea how a policeman makes out who's who, slight difference in pronounciation and foreign registration card maybe. those who see or work with a lot of foreigners everyday may be able to.
Well, being black... no hiding that we are not Japanese. Police stop us in every country we go to, including the USA. Including my own home town. We just get use to it. So, welcome to the club. Speakng Japanese does help. I have talked my way out of a lot of shit. Ask them why they have stopped you.
And show concern for them and acknowledge that you understand that they are just doing thier jobs. If they get nasty or rude, you have to let them know that you have certain rights that they should be aware of. They can`t really search your pockets, socks, brief case etc... without probable cause. You can refuse and demand to see a warrant. Most times they will not want to go through all that hassle unless you were caught red handed doing something illegal.
And show concern for them and acknowledge that you understand that they are just doing thier jobs. If they get nasty or rude, you have to let them know that you have certain rights that they should be aware of. They can`t really search your pockets, socks, brief case etc... without probable cause. You can refuse and demand to see a warrant. Most times they will not want to go through all that hassle unless you were caught red handed doing something illegal.
I've been checked at the NARITA train station on my way back from vacation. It ain't no thing though, just cooperate and its over. Unless you got something to hide.
If you're a foreigner in this country you are subject to being searched on the street. Why do you think that your obligated to hold an ALIEN REGISTRATION CARD. Your told to hold this card 24/7 (in the case you are checked, if you don't have it you will be arrested) If you start fussing about your rights and stuff like that, you will probably get pulled to the station and they will get a warrant so I don't think its smart to fuss.
And also the rights that you may think you have, you may not... So make sure that you know what your fussing about or it may land you somewhere you don't want to be.
Most of the time is most likely because you're a foreigner that stand out in the norm, but I have seen this done to Japanese people too so... Don't blame it just on race.
If you're a foreigner in this country you are subject to being searched on the street. Why do you think that your obligated to hold an ALIEN REGISTRATION CARD. Your told to hold this card 24/7 (in the case you are checked, if you don't have it you will be arrested) If you start fussing about your rights and stuff like that, you will probably get pulled to the station and they will get a warrant so I don't think its smart to fuss.
And also the rights that you may think you have, you may not... So make sure that you know what your fussing about or it may land you somewhere you don't want to be.
Most of the time is most likely because you're a foreigner that stand out in the norm, but I have seen this done to Japanese people too so... Don't blame it just on race.
Just one point I think needs to be made - handguns are illegal, shotguns and rifles are not. Similar to jolly England ;)
And just because I have nothing to hide does not mean I will allow them to treat me like a criminal - if you want to search me or my possesions then arrest me first, but you better know Im going to raise hell when you prove just how badly you have fsked up.
And just because I have nothing to hide does not mean I will allow them to treat me like a criminal - if you want to search me or my possesions then arrest me first, but you better know Im going to raise hell when you prove just how badly you have fsked up.
The police in my town are pretty bad. I am from Canada, but I live in a tourist town.
A couple of weekends ago my friend was beat up by a bouncer at a club. He didn't even do anything, he just wanted to leave. But the bouncer just doesn't like him.
Then they police grabbed him and pushed him into the wall, slammed him onto the police car, and tazered him 3 times.
It's stupid when he did nothing wrong, but also his own fault for resisting. Don't resist. You can talk to them afterwards.
Sometimes the job makes people act arrogant. Some feel they have something to prove. Some have had bad experiences and don't want it to happen again.
I think it is okay to check ID if they are not hurting anyone. But I also think they shouldn't judge by race.
A couple of weekends ago my friend was beat up by a bouncer at a club. He didn't even do anything, he just wanted to leave. But the bouncer just doesn't like him.
Then they police grabbed him and pushed him into the wall, slammed him onto the police car, and tazered him 3 times.
It's stupid when he did nothing wrong, but also his own fault for resisting. Don't resist. You can talk to them afterwards.
Sometimes the job makes people act arrogant. Some feel they have something to prove. Some have had bad experiences and don't want it to happen again.
I think it is okay to check ID if they are not hurting anyone. But I also think they shouldn't judge by race.
A policeman must use the power for doing justice and for protecting poeple from bad things and he should have the ability to see things objectively.
His behaviour should be based on proper reasoning and facts, not based on any pleasure, bias, prejudice and all.
Some poeple use their position to show that they are strong and superior by doing all the bull things we've been talking about.
It isn't right.
The police must give them an opportunity to reconsider what sort work they are in..
His behaviour should be based on proper reasoning and facts, not based on any pleasure, bias, prejudice and all.
Some poeple use their position to show that they are strong and superior by doing all the bull things we've been talking about.
It isn't right.
The police must give them an opportunity to reconsider what sort work they are in..
i lived in japan for just over a year and was never stopped or asked for my ID card. I was never humilated nor targeted by the police in any way. It all depends on how you act, how you come across. Act like a foolish gaijin (japan is riddled with them) and have no respect for japanese culture, sure you will be targeted, too right too.
When I was having my problem with the police and I complained many people got offended... foreigners would say, "Well *I* never got stopped!" and human rights/community legal groups said it was common, show my ID and forget about it... suddenly I'm reading about many other people being upset.
The only way to solve the problem is if the foreign community got together and raised the issue... however, it seems to me that very few foreigners are here for the long term... In addition, my assumption is that it is more common in big cities anyway.... and certain areas...
The key issue is: Are foreigners unfairly targeted... ? To answer this question a bit of investigative journalism is needed - - as well as legal checking... According to every lawyer I talked to it is perfectly legal... they have a right to ask for ID... you have a right to ask why... that's it... As for not showing ID... it seems that that is an ARBITRARY manner... technically speaking they can hold you until they're finished investigating whatever they want to know... but I know stories of foreigners who CLAIM to refuse to show their ID and being let go... I also know that a certain group encourages people to give the police a bit of a headache when they ask for IDs to keep them in their place.
My opinion: If its such a big issue... then instead of whining on MIXI enough people need to get together so the issue is more likely to be taken seriously...
As for HUMILIATION... I think the QUESTIONING is humiliating, not being asked to flash an ID card... Its no one's f*cking business where I'm going and where I came from... One cop actually cave me a pop quiz on the local geography to catch me in a lie... and it was really lame...
The only way to solve the problem is if the foreign community got together and raised the issue... however, it seems to me that very few foreigners are here for the long term... In addition, my assumption is that it is more common in big cities anyway.... and certain areas...
The key issue is: Are foreigners unfairly targeted... ? To answer this question a bit of investigative journalism is needed - - as well as legal checking... According to every lawyer I talked to it is perfectly legal... they have a right to ask for ID... you have a right to ask why... that's it... As for not showing ID... it seems that that is an ARBITRARY manner... technically speaking they can hold you until they're finished investigating whatever they want to know... but I know stories of foreigners who CLAIM to refuse to show their ID and being let go... I also know that a certain group encourages people to give the police a bit of a headache when they ask for IDs to keep them in their place.
My opinion: If its such a big issue... then instead of whining on MIXI enough people need to get together so the issue is more likely to be taken seriously...
As for HUMILIATION... I think the QUESTIONING is humiliating, not being asked to flash an ID card... Its no one's f*cking business where I'm going and where I came from... One cop actually cave me a pop quiz on the local geography to catch me in a lie... and it was really lame...
yes, i have only lived in japan for a year, and yes i may be female. There are lots of well-mannered, polite respectful foreigners living in japan. but there are also the few idiots that spoil it for everyone. if you get stopped for doing nothing, blame them. its not you, nor is it the police that is wrong. Blame the idiots who know they can get away with doing certain things in japan because they can. like the idiots who jump the train gates and when they get caught claim they speak no japanese so they can get away with it. like the idiots who find it funny to act like idiots and embarrase the japanese. just take a look on youtube.
the police are probably only targeting you because they know you wont be any hassle. its wrong, but thats japanese police for you.
the police are probably only targeting you because they know you wont be any hassle. its wrong, but thats japanese police for you.
Thanks guys for the replies, guess the police stop foreigners depend on the area and lookings..
My friend going back to his home country before his Visa expiration date just because of this problem..I have seen him putting his ID in the SUICA pocket of his wallet for instant preview of his ID to police daily he said!!!
My friend going back to his home country before his Visa expiration date just because of this problem..I have seen him putting his ID in the SUICA pocket of his wallet for instant preview of his ID to police daily he said!!!
- mixiユーザー
- ログインしてコメントしよう！
|
|
|
|
☆ENGLISH ONLY☆ 更新情報
-
最新のアンケート
☆ENGLISH ONLY☆のメンバーはこんなコミュニティにも参加しています
人気コミュニティランキング
- 1位
- 30代〜40代から友達作り【友活】
- 35884人
- 2位
- 暮らしを楽しむ
- 78091人
- 3位
- 40歳以上のおじさん&おばさん
- 14781人