I really dig Spiderman, but I'd love to know what drug they were on when they came up with Spiderman 3. In this movie, Spiderman finds himself doing battle with the greatest villain ever. Not Sandman, not Venom....no, it's Emo man. God help me, who came up with that? And what's the deal with every movie having to be 150 minutes these days. There are two unforgiveable sins for which Peter Jackson must pay! 1. He made it OK to be a fan of Lord of the Rings (it's not OK). 2. He made it OK to make stupidly long movies. Anyway back to Emo-man. 30 minutes of self absorbed belly gazing. A bit of action. 30 minutes of surly emo-man. A bit of action. Spiderman saves the day, Spiderman cries. Everyone claps, credits roll. (hey everyone, they can't hear you... there's no need to clap)
What is up with clapping at the end of the movie? I always thought that was extremely odd. "It's a movie." i would always say to myself. "This isnt broadway, so why are you all doing that?"
I havent seen it yet, but i probably will anyway. My friends will drag me there no matter what. Literally, even. ^^
But this is disappointing to hear... x_x ... oh well...
about clapping at movies, i seldom see that in Japan. But i did see it many times in America. It may be a cultural thing, but i thought Americans were too childish (or you could say they know how to enjoy life. :) )
you know it's funny that movies with the title of ...man are everywhere, but just Man can never become a movie. It's too boring. Who wants to see another man?
But actually, to see ordinary men in a drama is quite interesting. There is one superb such kind of TV drama. The tile is Suika (watermelon). It's very Japanese and very much Zen. It can't be made in no other countries i would say. If you understand Japanese, DVDs are there at any rental shop.
LOL Greatest post... Yeah I'm pretty dissapointed, but I'm a huge Venom fan so I guess I was ok with sitting through shit... And Topher was one of the only good actors in the movie...
So let me get this right. It isn't ok to like Lord of the Rings, but it is ok to like Spider-Man? It is also bad to have long movies? Guess I ought to quit watching good movies like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. I guess I should sell my Seven Samurai DVDs. I mean, hell, they're just TOO DAMN LONG and man, that damn Peter Jackson sure as hell started those long movies. I mean, Akira Kurosawa didn't do 3 hour movies back in the 1950's. I mean, wow, I guess I should just like, back the fuck up and just like, go watch some TV shows. Because anything more than 30 minutes is just too damn hard to give my attention to.
Give it up for the ADD kids! Great post son, great post.
It was just a joke. I like a few long movies, but
I like a good editor even better. A good director
who is translating a book to the screen will know
what's important and what to leave out. Lord of
the Rings were 3 good 90 minute movies they
managed to tell in 3 hours.
On an unrelated topic, can someone give me a
list of 10 things I can say that won't offend
anyone? These days it seems that even if I
say "Bunny rabbits are cute" someone will be
outraged and tear strips off me because of the
damage they do to crops.
yeah there was only like a few people clapping hands at the theater i went to last night too.ha ha well i guess the movie was okay. i like MARVEL movies anyway. im more excited about X-MEN tho.
try "Wildhogs"&"Disturbia" if you guys haven't watched them yet. they are good. i wana go watch "28 weeks later" its one of those Zombie movie and i liked the first one. so ill def wana watch it whenever its out
>can someone give me a list of 10 things I can say that won't offend anyone?
interesting!
1. weather
2. your trouble
3. your family trouble (friends included)
4. questions
5. gratitude
6. agreement
7. admiration
8. your love to someone (not political nor religeous)
9. your love to something (not too kinky)
In the comic books Peter Parker usually has some emotional struggle going on and I think they wanted to keep with that in the movies. He was always having women issues and dilemas, on top of having to cope with the super hero lifestyle. I think they were being true to the comic books, really. Whether that's a good or bad thing, I don't know. I kind of liked the feeling of involvment in Peter Parker's screwed up world of relationships. It gave the movie a bit more depth than just the average action movie. But then, you liles what you likes, I guess.
I thought the dumbest aspect of the new movie was how Harry changed his mind so suddenly just because the doddery old butler, whom we never really saw before, came up and whispered a home truth in his ear. I think the change of mind was too fast and would have liked to see something more than, 'I hate Peter Parker, ok, I like him now'.
>rajio
"On an unrelated topic, can someone give me a
list of 10 things I can say that won't offend
anyone?"
That is impossible. There is nothing that exists that wont offend someone, im sure. Although, it is true, why do people get mad at you so often? Maybe it is because you are right and it pisses them off. I could be wrong, you never know ^^
"mrkuryakin"'s right. The Spiderman comics often focused on Peter Parker versus what he thought he had to be. Other Marvel comics weren't very different in that regard. Stan Lee (creator) said from the outset that he was more interested in showing the human side of 'super heroes' versus, say, a Superman who only really dealt with whatever problem that just-plain-evil villian was causing at the time. It took decades for DC comics to finally show Batman reflecting on his personal life as Bruce Wayne, thus giving him a real personality with some sense of depth.
In the Spiderman comics, Peter Parker was never really comfortable with his "responsibilities". The movie's writers were keeping with that struggle when they wrote the screenplay.
Past that, how you felt at the end of the movie and how long you felt it should or shouldn't be is purely in the mind of the viewer. It could've always been worse!--Could've been a chick flick.
I haven't seen SPIDERMAN 3 yet - I'm even more interested in seeing it after reading this thread....
"I like a good editor even better. A good director
who is translating a book to the screen will know
what's important and what to leave out"
Mmm. Can you tell us a good editor that you like?
Personally I'll go for Robin Williams in FINAL CUT (joke)
Re : Directors...
Well P.Jackson is a hero -not for LORD OF THE RINGS- but for films like BRAINDEAD....I'm not sure why he's the scape goat for films being long, but as everyone said what's wrong with a long film?
Watch some Michael Bay (「michael bayで〜す」) bullshit if you want to see lots of whizzing and fast cuts, computers that make noises when you type on them etc...
Sam Raimi, the guy who directed the film you just watched there, did a little series of films called...THE EVIL DEAD!!!
(Bruce Campbell cameo in SPIDERMAN 2 was rad)
So I think he's earned the right to make a film as long as he feels like, and fuck what everyone says. In my opinion.
Bryan Singer did a good job with X-MEN, and X-MEN 2 and is basically to thank for the comic-book to film boom, but for me the un-celebrated hero of comic book to film Cinema is Ang Lee, and his film - THE HULK.
THE HULK got panned when it came out - a lot of people also complaining how long it was, but this film is a classic - go pick it up on DVD, you can probably get it for 990Yen.
I think the main reason it got panned was, for most people, there wasn't enough action straight away and there was too much talking/human interaction/relationships/actual filmography/no computers that make noises when you type on them/and so on....
Fuck it's almost worth the 990Yen just to see Nick Nolte basically playing himself from that mug-shot (of himself).
Anyway...
The comic book to film movie that I'm really looking forward to is THE WATCHMEN - great story.
"A good director who is translating a book to the screen will know what's important and what to leave out"
Spiderman 3 was OK... it seemed like the end of the series of movies. A good parallel would be to the original Batman series of movies... every sequel just kept adding more villians and more special effects, without much focus on the hero and how he dealt with the struggles of being a hero. I felt Spiderman 3 did a better job of exploring the meaning of Peter Parker's heroism than say, Batman 3... it could have been better, but it wasn't horrible.
Now... if they make a Spiderman 4... I don't really see there being much point to that. What villians are left? Carnage? The Lizard? Vulture? Kraven the Hunter?
None of those are nearly as interesting as Green Goblin, Doc Ock, or Venom...
I think this movie is probably going to divide. I went
with a group of 10 and 4 of us didn't like it at all.
That leaves 6 who either liked it a lot or thought it
was OK.
It doesn't really matter. Movies are personal and as
the saying goes, the worst movie ever made is someones
all time favourite.
I didn't like it. I thought it was so cheesy. The emo thing, and that dance scene, it was too much. I found myself laughing at parts that weren't supposed to funny. When Spiderman swung in past the American flag, I thought I was gonna puke.