Kamala Harris(42:46)
One of the fundamental values that the president-elect and I share, is a belief in the dignity of work. We both understand that a job is so much more than just a paycheck. It’s about dignity and respect. Joe learned that lesson from his father, and I learned it from my mother. My mother taught me in her words and in her actions, that no matter how you earn a living, whether you’re a caregiver or a truck driver, a grocery store clerk, or a small business owner, every job has inherent value and worth. And every worker everywhere has a right to earn a living wage, work in safe and healthy conditions, and pursue a better life for themselves and their family. We also know that right now the dignity of an honest day’s work, and the financial stability of a steady income, are out of reach for millions of Americans.
(47:25)
The December jobs report makes that very clear. Food banks as the president-elect has said, are being strained, trying to feed people who’ve had to worry for the first time in their lives, about where they can find their next meal. Essential workers like the nurses Joe and I called over the holidays, continue to risk their own health and the health of their families for all of us. Small business owners from restaurants to barbershops to dry cleaners, they’re hurting. And let’s be clear, those who run America’s small businesses, they’re not just business leaders, they are civic leaders, they are community leaders. They’re the ones who sponsored the little league team, and scholarships for local kids and all kinds of local causes and activities. They’re the ones who are role models in their communities. And we’ve got to do right by them. So first and foremost, as the president-elect has said, we will provide more immediate relief, we must, for working families and businesses now.
(48:40)
And even as we address our immediate crises, even as we work to contain this pandemic and open our economy responsibly, we must also do what President-elect Biden and I have pledged to do. We must build our economy back better. So that lift ups everyone. No matter what you do for living or where you live, whether it’s in a small town, a big city or anywhere in between. And that means providing access to capital for small business owners, the economic engines of our neighborhoods. So that they can create the jobs that are in our communities and help our communities thrive. It means making sure we’re equipping workers with the skills they need, for the jobs of the future, and making sure our entrepreneurs and businesses, continue to out innovate and out-compete the rest of the world. And it means protecting and expanding workers’ rights, by fighting for a higher minimum wage and paid leave, safe and healthy workplaces, and stronger unions.
(49:49)
From working with unions, the San Francisco’s district attorney to helping author the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights in the United States Senate, I can tell you from personal experience that whether it’s the apprenticeships of the building trades, or the caregiving skills of home healthcare workers, this is some of the most important work being done in our country. The president-elect and I know that, and so does this team we are announcing today. These are leaders and I’ve worked with many of them. Who together with the rest of our economic team, will help create millions of good paying union jobs, and build an economy that is stronger and fairer for working people.
(50:34)
They are seasoned public servants with track records of not only standing up for workers in unions, but creating and spurring innovation and creating opportunities for small business owners. And like President-elect Biden and I, they will fight to honor the dignity of work. The president-elect and I share a vision of America where opportunity is within reach for all the people. Where everyone can see a better and a brighter future for themselves, and for their children. With the leadership of these public servants and our entire economic team, we will get to work building that America, less than two weeks from today. Thank you so very much Mr. President-elect. Thank you.
Joe Biden: (51:28)
Okay guys. Well folks, let me take some of your questions. Will have chances again this week to do it. But [inaudible 00:52:08] can you tell me who was talking.
Speaker 4: (52:24)
Mr. President-elect, while we have been here as you’ve been announcing your economic team, we’ve learned that House Democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump, as soon as Monday. At that point it’ll be just a little over a week before the president leaves office. Do you believe this is a good idea?
Joe Biden: (52:49)
Look, I’ve thought for a long, long time, that President Trump wasn’t fit to hold the job. That’s why I ran. And my job now in 12 days, God willing I’ll be president of United States of America. And I’m focused on the urgency of three immediate concerns. One, the virus. Getting it under control. Getting the vaccine from a vial into people’s arms. I think the way it’s being done now has been very, very sad. Number two, we’ve had 4,000 deaths yesterday. And things continue to rise to escalate. That’s my number one concern, to get the virus under control.
(53:40)
We lost over 125,000 jobs this last month, and people are really, really, really in desperate shape. And so I’m focused on the virus, the vaccine, and economic growth. What the Congress decides to do, is for them to decide. But I’m going to have to, and they’re going to have to be ready, to hit the ground running, because when Kamala and I are sworn in, we’re going to be introducing immediately, significant piece of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth. So we’re going to do our job and the Congress can decide how to proceed with theirs.
Speaker 4: (54:26)
But if a Democratic member of Congress were to call and ask for your advice about whether they should proceed with this, what would you tell them?
Joe Biden: (54:34)
I’ll tell them that’s a decision for the Congress to make. I’m focused on my job.
Speaker 4: (54:39)
And did you speak with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi before this decision was made, or is that conversation that’s still going to happen?
Joe Biden: (54:47)
I’ll be speaking with Nancy and the Democratic leadership this afternoon as a matter of fact, about my agenda, as well as whatever they want to talk to me about.
Speaker 4: (54:56) Okay. Thanks.
Speaker 5: (54:59)[inaudible 00:54:59].
Ken: (55:07)Thanks Mr. President-elect.
Joe Biden: (55:09)Thank you Ken.
Ken: (55:10)
I wanted to ask you about your agenda in light of the jobs report that came out today. You’re going to be laying out the principles of your plan. Do you think that the need in the COVID relief bill is greater than you anticipated? And what is the price tag that you’re looking at? I’ve been told it could be in the two to three trillion dollar range. And then as it relates to the direct cash payments, you’ve talked about the need for $2,000 checks. Do you want to see that in a Senate standalone bill as a way to speed up the process, or do you think those direct cash payments should be part of the package that you’re going to be proposing?
Joe Biden: (55:50)
We’re going to be proposing an entire package. And parts of that package are of equal consequence to people. Unemployment insurance, being able to continue with rent forbearance, a whole range of issues. And so that’s number one. We think that they all have to be dealt with. The price tag will be high. But as I said, made scant reference to in my opening comments. The overwhelming consensus among the leading economists left, right and center, is that in order to keep the economy from collapsing this year and getting much, much worse, we should be investing significant amounts of money right now to grow the economy. And that’s a pretty wide consensus. And as you know, Moody’s had done an analysis of what I originally had been talking about, and said that it was necessary to keep the economy from going down. We’d rise. We’d create 18.6 million jobs, create two trillion dollars more in economic growth than the other administration would, this outgoing administration.
(57:03)
So it is necessary to spend the money now. The answer is yes. It will be in the trillions of dollars, the entire package. I’ll be here next Thursday laying out in detail, how that package is going to go. But the basic story is simple, that if we don’t act now things are going to get much worse and harder to get out of the hole later. So we have to invest now. Secondly, we’re going to have to meet the emergency needs of the American people. I mean literally, I know you know this Ken. That people are having trouble just putting food on the table. Just having to stay, keep the payment of their car, being able to turn the lights on. There’s a dire, dire need to act now, purely out of what is a humanitarian need here at home.
(57:51)
In the third stage of this the whole story is, we’re going to have to invest as I suggested throughout the campaign, in infrastructure and healthcare and a whole range of things, that are going to generate good paying jobs, that will allow us to grow the economy. So that’s a long answer to your short question. Which is that, the idea of with interest rates as low as they are, with the fed having had its power sort of taken away in terms of what they could do to help this administration like last, it’s important across the board, every major economist thinks we should be investing in deficit spending in order to generate economic growth.
Ken: (58:30)
And I wanted to ask you about what took place at the Capitol this week. You served in the Senate for 36 years, and importantly you were there in 1983 when there was an explosion in the Senate quarter, you were there in 1998 when two Capitol police officers were shot. You were there during the anthrax attacks in 2001, what kind of an investigation needs to take place, and what steps need to take place to improve the security of the Capitol. And then secondly, how do you think the people who were involved in the storming of the Capitol, how should they be treated by your justice department? Should they be treated as domestic terrorists?
Joe Biden: (59:13)
Yes. They should be treated as they’re a bunch of thugs, insurrectionist, white supremacists, anti-Semites, [Six N 00:19:20] is not enough. I mean, come on. These shirts they’re wearing, these are a bunch of thugs, thugs, and they’re terrorists, domestic terrorists. And that’ll be a judgment for the Justice Department to make as to what the charges should be. But the fact is they should be prosecuted. They should be prosecuted. The difference here is, this had the active encouragement of a sitting president of the United States. And the way in which the breakdown in security occurred, needs to be thoroughly investigated. I’m not going to prejudge what it was, but the idea that these people were able to just march up the…
Joe Biden: (01:00:03)
… idea. The idea that these people were able to just march up the stairs, march in, and do it in the way … There’s a great debate, I don’t know the answer, a great debate now. Was the governor of Maryland correct when he said that, “I was ready to send in the National Guard. I couldn’t get authorization.” What happened? It deserves a full-blown investigation, people being held accountable, and steps taken that something like this could never happen again. And the difference this time is, every nation has dealt, every democracy has dealt with individual terrorist attacks by groups that are very targeted.
(01:00:44)
The largest target was 911 and the buildings. Well, right down to a bomb going off in the Capitol when I was there and two policemen. But the idea that thousands of people, thousands of people, could be marching up the steps of the United States Capitol, breaking windows, breaking doors, forcing their way in, stepping aside, and the photographs of … Well, I don’t know what the circumstance is. The photograph of, it looked like you had some of the Capitol Police taking selfies with these people. That has to be thoroughly investigated.
(01:01:19)
The authorities responsible have to be held accountable for the failures that occurred, and we have to make sure that this can never ever happen again. The damage done to our reputation around the world by a president of the United States encouraging a mob, a mob, this reminded me more of states I’ve visited of the hundred countries I’ve gone to in tinhorn dictatorships. It just cannot be sustained, has to be immediately, immediately investigated in depth, and people have to be held accountable.
One of the fundamental values that the president-elect and I share, is a belief in the dignity of work. We both understand that a job is so much more than just a paycheck. It’s about dignity and respect. Joe learned that lesson from his father, and I learned it from my mother. My mother taught me in her words and in her actions, that no matter how you earn a living, whether you’re a caregiver or a truck driver, a grocery store clerk, or a small business owner, every job has inherent value and worth. And every worker everywhere has a right to earn a living wage, work in safe and healthy conditions, and pursue a better life for themselves and their family. We also know that right now the dignity of an honest day’s work, and the financial stability of a steady income, are out of reach for millions of Americans.
(47:25)
The December jobs report makes that very clear. Food banks as the president-elect has said, are being strained, trying to feed people who’ve had to worry for the first time in their lives, about where they can find their next meal. Essential workers like the nurses Joe and I called over the holidays, continue to risk their own health and the health of their families for all of us. Small business owners from restaurants to barbershops to dry cleaners, they’re hurting. And let’s be clear, those who run America’s small businesses, they’re not just business leaders, they are civic leaders, they are community leaders. They’re the ones who sponsored the little league team, and scholarships for local kids and all kinds of local causes and activities. They’re the ones who are role models in their communities. And we’ve got to do right by them. So first and foremost, as the president-elect has said, we will provide more immediate relief, we must, for working families and businesses now.
(48:40)
And even as we address our immediate crises, even as we work to contain this pandemic and open our economy responsibly, we must also do what President-elect Biden and I have pledged to do. We must build our economy back better. So that lift ups everyone. No matter what you do for living or where you live, whether it’s in a small town, a big city or anywhere in between. And that means providing access to capital for small business owners, the economic engines of our neighborhoods. So that they can create the jobs that are in our communities and help our communities thrive. It means making sure we’re equipping workers with the skills they need, for the jobs of the future, and making sure our entrepreneurs and businesses, continue to out innovate and out-compete the rest of the world. And it means protecting and expanding workers’ rights, by fighting for a higher minimum wage and paid leave, safe and healthy workplaces, and stronger unions.
(49:49)
From working with unions, the San Francisco’s district attorney to helping author the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights in the United States Senate, I can tell you from personal experience that whether it’s the apprenticeships of the building trades, or the caregiving skills of home healthcare workers, this is some of the most important work being done in our country. The president-elect and I know that, and so does this team we are announcing today. These are leaders and I’ve worked with many of them. Who together with the rest of our economic team, will help create millions of good paying union jobs, and build an economy that is stronger and fairer for working people.
(50:34)
They are seasoned public servants with track records of not only standing up for workers in unions, but creating and spurring innovation and creating opportunities for small business owners. And like President-elect Biden and I, they will fight to honor the dignity of work. The president-elect and I share a vision of America where opportunity is within reach for all the people. Where everyone can see a better and a brighter future for themselves, and for their children. With the leadership of these public servants and our entire economic team, we will get to work building that America, less than two weeks from today. Thank you so very much Mr. President-elect. Thank you.
Joe Biden: (51:28)
Okay guys. Well folks, let me take some of your questions. Will have chances again this week to do it. But [inaudible 00:52:08] can you tell me who was talking.
Speaker 4: (52:24)
Mr. President-elect, while we have been here as you’ve been announcing your economic team, we’ve learned that House Democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump, as soon as Monday. At that point it’ll be just a little over a week before the president leaves office. Do you believe this is a good idea?
Joe Biden: (52:49)
Look, I’ve thought for a long, long time, that President Trump wasn’t fit to hold the job. That’s why I ran. And my job now in 12 days, God willing I’ll be president of United States of America. And I’m focused on the urgency of three immediate concerns. One, the virus. Getting it under control. Getting the vaccine from a vial into people’s arms. I think the way it’s being done now has been very, very sad. Number two, we’ve had 4,000 deaths yesterday. And things continue to rise to escalate. That’s my number one concern, to get the virus under control.
(53:40)
We lost over 125,000 jobs this last month, and people are really, really, really in desperate shape. And so I’m focused on the virus, the vaccine, and economic growth. What the Congress decides to do, is for them to decide. But I’m going to have to, and they’re going to have to be ready, to hit the ground running, because when Kamala and I are sworn in, we’re going to be introducing immediately, significant piece of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth. So we’re going to do our job and the Congress can decide how to proceed with theirs.
Speaker 4: (54:26)
But if a Democratic member of Congress were to call and ask for your advice about whether they should proceed with this, what would you tell them?
Joe Biden: (54:34)
I’ll tell them that’s a decision for the Congress to make. I’m focused on my job.
Speaker 4: (54:39)
And did you speak with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi before this decision was made, or is that conversation that’s still going to happen?
Joe Biden: (54:47)
I’ll be speaking with Nancy and the Democratic leadership this afternoon as a matter of fact, about my agenda, as well as whatever they want to talk to me about.
Speaker 4: (54:56) Okay. Thanks.
Speaker 5: (54:59)[inaudible 00:54:59].
Ken: (55:07)Thanks Mr. President-elect.
Joe Biden: (55:09)Thank you Ken.
Ken: (55:10)
I wanted to ask you about your agenda in light of the jobs report that came out today. You’re going to be laying out the principles of your plan. Do you think that the need in the COVID relief bill is greater than you anticipated? And what is the price tag that you’re looking at? I’ve been told it could be in the two to three trillion dollar range. And then as it relates to the direct cash payments, you’ve talked about the need for $2,000 checks. Do you want to see that in a Senate standalone bill as a way to speed up the process, or do you think those direct cash payments should be part of the package that you’re going to be proposing?
Joe Biden: (55:50)
We’re going to be proposing an entire package. And parts of that package are of equal consequence to people. Unemployment insurance, being able to continue with rent forbearance, a whole range of issues. And so that’s number one. We think that they all have to be dealt with. The price tag will be high. But as I said, made scant reference to in my opening comments. The overwhelming consensus among the leading economists left, right and center, is that in order to keep the economy from collapsing this year and getting much, much worse, we should be investing significant amounts of money right now to grow the economy. And that’s a pretty wide consensus. And as you know, Moody’s had done an analysis of what I originally had been talking about, and said that it was necessary to keep the economy from going down. We’d rise. We’d create 18.6 million jobs, create two trillion dollars more in economic growth than the other administration would, this outgoing administration.
(57:03)
So it is necessary to spend the money now. The answer is yes. It will be in the trillions of dollars, the entire package. I’ll be here next Thursday laying out in detail, how that package is going to go. But the basic story is simple, that if we don’t act now things are going to get much worse and harder to get out of the hole later. So we have to invest now. Secondly, we’re going to have to meet the emergency needs of the American people. I mean literally, I know you know this Ken. That people are having trouble just putting food on the table. Just having to stay, keep the payment of their car, being able to turn the lights on. There’s a dire, dire need to act now, purely out of what is a humanitarian need here at home.
(57:51)
In the third stage of this the whole story is, we’re going to have to invest as I suggested throughout the campaign, in infrastructure and healthcare and a whole range of things, that are going to generate good paying jobs, that will allow us to grow the economy. So that’s a long answer to your short question. Which is that, the idea of with interest rates as low as they are, with the fed having had its power sort of taken away in terms of what they could do to help this administration like last, it’s important across the board, every major economist thinks we should be investing in deficit spending in order to generate economic growth.
Ken: (58:30)
And I wanted to ask you about what took place at the Capitol this week. You served in the Senate for 36 years, and importantly you were there in 1983 when there was an explosion in the Senate quarter, you were there in 1998 when two Capitol police officers were shot. You were there during the anthrax attacks in 2001, what kind of an investigation needs to take place, and what steps need to take place to improve the security of the Capitol. And then secondly, how do you think the people who were involved in the storming of the Capitol, how should they be treated by your justice department? Should they be treated as domestic terrorists?
Joe Biden: (59:13)
Yes. They should be treated as they’re a bunch of thugs, insurrectionist, white supremacists, anti-Semites, [Six N 00:19:20] is not enough. I mean, come on. These shirts they’re wearing, these are a bunch of thugs, thugs, and they’re terrorists, domestic terrorists. And that’ll be a judgment for the Justice Department to make as to what the charges should be. But the fact is they should be prosecuted. They should be prosecuted. The difference here is, this had the active encouragement of a sitting president of the United States. And the way in which the breakdown in security occurred, needs to be thoroughly investigated. I’m not going to prejudge what it was, but the idea that these people were able to just march up the…
Joe Biden: (01:00:03)
… idea. The idea that these people were able to just march up the stairs, march in, and do it in the way … There’s a great debate, I don’t know the answer, a great debate now. Was the governor of Maryland correct when he said that, “I was ready to send in the National Guard. I couldn’t get authorization.” What happened? It deserves a full-blown investigation, people being held accountable, and steps taken that something like this could never happen again. And the difference this time is, every nation has dealt, every democracy has dealt with individual terrorist attacks by groups that are very targeted.
(01:00:44)
The largest target was 911 and the buildings. Well, right down to a bomb going off in the Capitol when I was there and two policemen. But the idea that thousands of people, thousands of people, could be marching up the steps of the United States Capitol, breaking windows, breaking doors, forcing their way in, stepping aside, and the photographs of … Well, I don’t know what the circumstance is. The photograph of, it looked like you had some of the Capitol Police taking selfies with these people. That has to be thoroughly investigated.
(01:01:19)
The authorities responsible have to be held accountable for the failures that occurred, and we have to make sure that this can never ever happen again. The damage done to our reputation around the world by a president of the United States encouraging a mob, a mob, this reminded me more of states I’ve visited of the hundred countries I’ve gone to in tinhorn dictatorships. It just cannot be sustained, has to be immediately, immediately investigated in depth, and people have to be held accountable.
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