Someone sent me this article/report/? what ever it is. They put a lot of time in to researching the data. I guess. Lets just assume this is all correct. Or not. After reading it I am conflicted. "So what" comes to mind for me personally since I am neither Jewish nor Muslim but.... we all bleed red. Anyway this seemed worth sharing. Food for thought.
Subject: ONE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEWS AND MUSLIMS The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature: 1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace: 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat 1990 - Elias James Corey 1994 - Yaser Arafat: 1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics: (zero)
Medicine: 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar 1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 (SEVEN)
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature: 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson 1958 - Boris Pasternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer
World Peace: 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics: 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1952 - Felix Bloch 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Donald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1972 - William Howard Stein 1973 - Brian David Josephson 1975 - Ben jamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Roald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 - Robert Huber 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1989 - Si dney Altman 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1992 - Rudolph Marc us 1995 - Martin Perl 2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics: 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Milton Friedman 1978 - Herbert A. Simon 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Mark owitz 1990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine: 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jacob 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Ben cerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1995 - Edward B. Lewis 1996- Lu Rose Iacovino TOTAL: 129!
The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.
The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel . Benjamin Netanyahu
General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect:
'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'
Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while the German people looked the other way.
Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United States ?
“If they’re not going to make a distinction between Muslims and violent extremists, then why should I take the time to distinguish between decent fearful white people, and racists?” -- Aasif Mandvi of the Daily Show
Orhan Pamuk won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 2006. I think I read an interview of his where he identified himself as a Muslim, though I could be mistaken.
As for the "report" in question, if you genuinely found it to be "food for thought" instead of instantly recognizing it for the pile of BS that it is, then, well, words fail me. I mean, seriously.
>There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8465006.stm
>The Jews don't...have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shapira
don't get me started on Australians! I walk out the door and it's like....well it's like they're everywhere.....I can't walk down the street without seeing them. Bloody Australians.....now Canadians, Australia would be a much better place if we kicked out all the Australians and filled the place up with Canadians.
@Ian
Just import Asia and the Middle East, slap a made in Canada label on it and there you go.
Think Australia is already Canada. Just need to convince them hockey is the coolest sport. Which should be self evident anyway!!
@さまそる
Yeah the majority of Jews go around destroying Churches. What a desperate wanker.
The A-rabs are chasing Christian scaredy ess out of the middle east. The German Pope was wanking on about that recently. The Jordanians have to protect their small Christian population. Lebanon Christians are emigrating anywhere except there. Say goodbye to Christians in the ME. The Jews in most of the ME was forced to leave for Israel or somewhere else. It will happen to Christians. Hahaha!
>The Jews don't...have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
First Jews don't use the word Infidels. They use the word Gyoim. Meaning "nations". Gyoim can also refer to Israel. Because it's also a nation.
And every Jew thinks they are the leader. For every two Jews, they will have three opinions. Probably disagreeing with themselves half the time. So ya talk with one shmo on the street doesn't exactly make that a trend. And who are you considering a "leader"?
OK i'll call for a boycott on mother's chicken soup and keeping our chicken soup recipe to ourselves. Oh how shocking...a conspiracy of minestrone proportions.
Actually that already exists. It's called Kosher Wine.
shocking shocking. Call up the wanker hotline. Call this new information in.
Am I the only guy here who has no idea what デイブ is rambling on about? Although, I agree with him that hockey is probably cooler than any of those weird sports that they play down under.
@さまそる
> Am I the only guy here who has no idea what デイブ is rambling on about?
If you have no idea what i'm talking about then you have no idea what you were talking about.
But at least you are honest about not knowing wtf we are talking about.
If you must throw silly insults at strangers, at least try to use correct grammer
& punctuation first. Otherwise you will just seem more of a twat than you
already are!
My own initial reaction is yes. Without a doubt it would solve many, or
at least some, of the worlds tensions. Just by virtue of the fact that
there would be something less to argue & fight about.
However, I think the obvious negative side would be something
else, a belief mechanism or maybe something totally different,
filling the space left by defunkt religion.
I'm not really so sure.....I mean ever since the fence was invented it's been about "this is mine, hands off". Wars will be fought over anything....and if there isn't a good reason people will just settle for a stupid reason.
I was actually talking to a guy from Serbia and he said 'there will always be conflict in the Balkans because the people are all crazy'....I'm quoting him....'they all know about the time 200 or 300 years ago when that family or that village did such and such to them and even though 300 years has passed they still harbor this deep resentment'.
though i havent understood all parts of this article, i just wondered if this one is a simple insult for muslims. the purpose of this is just to stop an increase of them and make people consider how israeli feels...
i guess that she/he is still a child or young student since the writer only has a limited view. jewish side is emphasized in a gond way.
I always find it interesting how people will find different reasons to hate. Even when they are 100% the same like in North and South Korea. You even hate me for forwarding this article.
But it did get the desired effect. I wanted to just feel that it was BS but it had some points that were convincing. Some of you sound like you are in denial. Even if you never read this ( because I never posted it;) it was still in circulation so you might as well see whats floating around out there ( like turds in the water) just in case you wanted to defend your principles, or whatever. And for who ever doesnt want to read it, you can just visit some other link that is more to your liking.
You just tried to be a douchebag and are changing your tactics when you realize everyone is calling you on your bullshit. Get the fuck off this community if this is what you're going to try to do with it.
> I have not watched bbm, but apparently you have.
Wow what a dorky thing to write. What are you looking for a "And i know you are but what am i." reply?! Cheesy...
> Are you homophobic?gay and straight are societal constructs.
societal constructs?!
wtf? No society (except maybe Rome) considers gays a basic necessity for forming a society.
A citizen...Yes
A couple that produces children...Yes
Immigrants for cheap labor...Maybe
Stretching a bit far...you could argue without gays, any military would be hurting for soldiers. But militarys' aren't exactly coming out () and saying, "Wow we need gay people otherwise how'd we defend our heterosexuals?" Although that would make a great theonion.com video clip.
The Cousin J story is fictitious. Cuz ALL Jewish men during that time period were married.
I would imagine that some intelligent counter arguments would be the way to deal with this type of article. Not just saying that its racist bullshit. Defend your opinion about this topic and the author if you can. That is all I was expecting. We need to explain why we don`t agree with certain points that are made.. etc.. Some posters did just that but some still reverted to attacking the messenger. I don`t think anyone has the right to take offense with me for
posting this ( what I thought was an interesting if not accurate, politically incorrect ) article.
Hard to believe everything you read in Wikipedia since anyone can edit the content.
Commentary on the video. Talk about missed opportunity.
The Jews would almost pick someone. An argument erupts within their own delegation. Ages pass. 10,000 years later. As everyone waited for their pick. Every other delegation became extinct. Solving the problem of who they would pick.
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One more time.
There is no Jewish nor Muslim nor Christian races.
And this is Japan. There is no such thing as racial discrimination here. Ask any Japanese person. So get over it!
@スンズロゴウモウ
> same humans
That's at least a counter argument.
@TokyoOG
Agreed. People grow a backbone!
Not only is the "race" thing a cop-out. From a Jews or a Muslims perspective, it makes whoever says it sound like their history education encompassed at most 30-40 years.
Also i heard an Israeli girl state the same argument as the article. It's a nationalist argument. My nation is better than your nation. Like Canadians dissing Americans. And Americans replying "oh you mean the Americans up north". I get sick of listening to both groups.
So that's why i stated instead of going down the nationalistic path. Choose a different strategy. Attack polygamy. That's an argument you can win and most nation would agree with.
You were the one who started with the brokeback comment and the gay porn. Women were seen as significantly below men in social standing back then, and thus did not appear in many artworks. Keep in mind that the last supper was painted from one's imagination, and I don't think it was meant to be an accurate depiction of the scene, if it had actually happened.
What I meant about social constructs was not the actual homosexual, but the signs of a homosexual. ie, pink =feminine, blue = masculine. Before, it was the opposite. Make-up is associated with only females, in the past, men wore more make-up than women. wigs, same thing. etc etc. Society constructs what they deem "feminine and masculine" and label persons who do the opposite as homosexuals. Man wearing high-heels, make-up, and a dress... one casually identifies him as "gay."
@aznatama
Many of the commenters on this thread were hitting out at Jews. Mostly with one liners from Christianity or just nonsense (like the "race" thing. South Park. Whatever an atheist has to say).
I just ripped into those one liners (ignoring Cartman's comment. It's a comedy. I get that. Don't find it funny, but that's South Park.).
But come on!! Still think the backbone comment stands. When someone says Cousin J is fictitious and gay. You'd think a few people would come to Cousin J's defense?! Even just out of spite. Everyone can be spiteful. Get into it already!
Think most people would think any argument that includes the phrase "social constructs" isn't a convincing argument. You could be absolutely brilliant. Completely right. And your argument incredibly persuasive. But think you lost the beer swigging public. You ain't selling movies by throwing out phrases like "social constructs" (or listing the number of noble prizes Jews and Muslims have received).
Back to the Last Supper painting. When anyone pictures Cousin J, that painting comes to mind. And the (cultured) German Pope has done squat to rid his organization of the pedophile gay priests. Everyone is universally pissed about that.
Tie the pedophile gay priests with any one liners Christianity can throw out. And universally everyone will be skeptical of those one liners.
So when i say, "Look Cousin J is gay."
Or "Cousin J was made up by the Romans."
Look here is the proof.
I don't have to be right. Just have to make a persuasive argument to an already skeptical audience.