00:21:21 Benjamin Netanyahu
THANK YOU. FIRST LET ME SAY, EVERYONE IN ISRAEL IS SUPREMELY DELIGHTED WITH THE PEACE WE HAVE. IS A WARM PEACE BETWEEN THE EMIRATES AND ISRAEL. IT IS JUST TREMENDOUS. NOW, MOROCCO AND SADDAM, WILL BE -- IT ALREADY IS AN ECONOMIC PEACE. WE BARELY SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS. AND THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS WENT TO DUBAI, IN THE BUSINESS PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING BANANAS. THEY ARE DOING FANTASTIC DEALS. IT IS GREAT BECAUSE THE EMIRATES HAVE PROVED TO BE AS TREMENDOUSLY ENTREPRENEURIAL, AND THEY ARE GUIDED BY YOUR VISIONARY LEADER. CHAIRMAN MOHAMMED IS A VISIONARY LEADER, AND HE UNDERSTANDS THE POWER OF INNOVATION, AND THE POWER TO DARE, TO DRINK. HE ALSO -- TO DARE, TO DREAM. TO HAVE THIS NEW KIND OF PEACE THAT IS CHANGING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND ARABS. I HAVE TO SAY, ARABS AND JEWS IN ISRAEL. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THIS IS DOING. NOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK WATER IS GOING TO BE A HUGE CHALLENGE, AND I THINK WE CAN OVERCOME IT AS MANY OTHER THINGS WITH TECHNOLOGY. IT IS ALMOST LIKE, WHY DID THE GREAT FORECAST NOT WORK OUT ON THE SHORTAGE OF FOOD, AND HUMANITIES GROWTH RATE? IT TURNS OUT -- IT TURNS OUT, IT DID GROW IN AN EXPONENTIAL RATE. BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT FOOD GREW AT A GREATER RATE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN WITH WATER. DID HAPPEN IN WATER IN THE CASE OF ISRAEL. WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS RAINFALL THAN WE HAD AT THE FOUNDING OF THE STATE 73 YEARS AGO. OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN TENFOLD. OUR GDP PER CAPITA HAS MULTIPLIED. SO WE SHOULD HAVE WATER SCARCITY -- WE SHOULD HAVE WATER WARS AND WE HAVE NEITHER. WHAT WE HAVE IS WE MAKE OUR WATER. OR WE SAVE OUR WATER. WE RECYCLE ABOUT 90% OF OUR WASTEWATER, WHICH IS THE FIRST IN THE WORLD. THE RUNNER-UP IS THEY WITH 20%, I THINK. PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY OF WATER, KEY. WE HAVE THE WORLD'S LARGEST, ONE OF THE LARGEST PERHAPS, SOMETHING -- THE EMIRATES AS WELL [INDISCERNIBLE] WE ARE USING SOLAR TECHNOLOGY TO BE THE WORLD LEADER IN PRODUCING SOLAR ENERGY. WE CAN DESALINATE WATER WITHOUT USING -- WITHOUT THE NECESSARY POLLUTION. THESE THINGS ARE COMBINED. WE NOW HAVE MORE WATER THAN WE NEED. IF WE NEED MORE WATER, WE MAKE IT. SINCE YOU CAN'T MAKE IT AT NIGHTTIME, PORT IN THE WINTER MONTHS, YOU SOMETIMES MAKE MORE THAN YOU NEED IN THE SUMMER. REVERSING OUR SUPPLY FROM THE SEA OF GALILEE WHICH WE USED TO CARRY WATER DOWN TO THE PARTS IN THE SOUTH OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE PUSHING WATER THROUGH THE RESERVOIR. WE ARE PUSHING IT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION DURING THE WINTERTIME. THESE ARE CREATIVE THINGS TO PREVENT LINKAGES AND SO ON FROM WATER SYSTEMS. YOU CAN USE TECHNOLOGY, YOU CAN OVERCOME THE WORLD'S WATER PROBLEMS. WE ARE SHARING THIS WITH COUNTRIES FROM CHINA TO YOU NAME IT. SOUTH AMERICA, AFRICA. WE SHARE THIS TECHNOLOGY GLADLY BECAUSE CORONA HAS SHOWN US THAT WE ARE ALL IN ONE BOAT. IF WE CAN PLUG THE HOLES IN THE BOAT, WE WILL ALL BE BETTER OFF.
00:25:31 Borge Brende
THANK YOU. WE ARE GLAD -- WE SUPPORT MORE PER DROP. WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION LEFT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- I DON'T WANT HIM TO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO COME WITH HIS QUESTION. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
00:25:47
THANK YOU. PRIME MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTS. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE MET IN DABO'S. YOU TOLD ME HOW ISRAEL HAS CYBER SECURITY. SEVEN YEARS LATER, IT IS NOW -- I KNOW IN THE LARGEST CYBERSECURITY COMPANY IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE SOME GREAT PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH AND ACQUIRE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP,. YOU ALLUDED TO SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WITH STEPHAN'S QUESTION OF WHY YOU WERE ABLE TO TURN ISRAEL INTO A POWERHOUSE ON THE CYBER TOPICS. WITH THAT BECOMING SO TOPICAL TODAY WITH ALL THE RECENT TAX PEOPLE LEARNED ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE COLLABORATION ON HOW YOU CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT. AND TWO, GIVEN WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST OFFICES IN TEL AVIV TALKING ABOUT THE CUTTING BUREAUCRACY AND MOVING, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GO UP THAT LETTER SO IT MAKES LIFE EASIER TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR INSIGHTS OF HOW CYBERSECURITY CONTINUES TO BE CENTER STAGE IN ISRAEL.
00:26:59 Benjamin Netanyahu
I HAVE ALREADY ACTED ON YOUR BEHALF, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T TELL YOU IT WAS OUR FIRST GOAL. I HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE, IMMENSE PRESSURE, AFTER WE DEVELOPED BASICALLY A VERY ROBUST CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY. WHICH MEANT BASICALLY ALLOWING ALL THESE GIFTED PEOPLE TO LEAD OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS TO FORM THEIR COMPANIES. AND PARTNER WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES, YOUR COMPANY'S. WE HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO PROTECT OUR SECRETS TO BEGIN TO REGULATE CYBER THE WAY YOU REGULATE ARMS INDUSTRY. I RESISTED IT. BECAUSE I SAID THAT CYBER IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO, BECAUSE WE ARE DIGITIZING THE WORLD. IT'S CLEAR. AS THAT GOES UP, CYBERSECURITY REQUIREMENTS GOES UP. IF WE BLOCK THAT, WE BLOCK A GROWTH INDUSTRY. SO FAR, I WANT YOU DO NOT, IT IS NOT EASY. I'VE DONE MY PART. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BASICALLY DONE THAT, AND ABLE THE FINEST MINDS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND CREATE THEIR COMPANIES, WHICH THEY DO. IT IS VERY ROBUST. WE ARE NUMBER TWO RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD IN ABSOLUTE FORMATION OF COMPANIES AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN CYBER. AND WE ARE A COUNTRY OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. OTHER THING WE DO, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, THAT SUNK COST ISIS -- I DESCRIBED TO YOU OF OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS AND OUR INFORMATION, OUR INTELLIGENCE UNITS, WE ARE MOVING TO THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY AND ALLOWING WHAT YOU CALL THE JARGON OF THE ECHO SYSTEM TO DEVELOP AROUND IT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOU TAKE THE ECONOMY AND THE BUSINESSES AND YOU PUT THEM IN. YOU PUT THEM WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. WALKING DISTANCE. IN PALO ALTO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WALKING DISTANCE OR JOGGING DISTANCE, WHAT YOU THINK THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT IS AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT. TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION. THE FERMENTATION TAKES PLACE, ALLOW FOREIGN COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS TO PARTAKE IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS. BUT TRY TO LOWER THE LIMITS, AND KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW AND KEEP YOUR REGULATIONS LOW. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT IS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE. FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE. I THINK CYBER PRESENTS NEW PROBLEMS, BIG PROBLEMS. I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE REALLY BIG ACTORS, STATE ACTORS, THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE IN CYBER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE AND OTHER FORMS OF ATTACKS. SO THE DEFENSE IS SOMEWHAT MORE COMPLICATED. WE TOOK A NATIONAL DEFENSE AGENCY, ESTABLISHED IT, GAVE IT AUTHORITY TO REGULATE, BUSINESSES AND SO ON, AND WE REALLY ORGANIZED THE QUESTION OF DEFENSE. NATIONAL DEFENSE, THE AIR FORCE, WHATEVER. CRITICAL FACILITIES ON THE ONE SIDE AND BUSINESSES. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS. AND THE MOST DIFFICULT, THE MOST COMPLEX PROBLEM CONCEPTUALLY IS TO SIMPLIFY IT. TRY TO SIMPLE IF I IT AND HAVE CLEAR FOUNDATIONS. BUT THE DEFENSE AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY STATE CYBER ATTACKS, IS COMP LOCATED. -- IS COMPLICATED. I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IS BECOMING A BIG PART, IN ADDITION TO CYBERCRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
00:25:31 Borge Brende
THANK YOU. WE ARE GLAD -- WE SUPPORT MORE PER DROP. WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION LEFT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- I DON'T WANT HIM TO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO COME WITH HIS QUESTION. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.PLEASE GO AHEAD.
Benjamin Netanyahu00:26:59
I HAVE ALREADY ACTED ON YOUR BEHALF, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T TELL YOU IT WAS OUR FIRST GOAL. I HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE, IMMENSE PRESSURE, AFTER WE DEVELOPED BASICALLY A VERY ROBUST CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY. WHICH MEANT BASICALLY ALLOWING ALL THESE GIFTED PEOPLE TO LEAD OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS TO FORM THEIR COMPANIES. AND PARTNER WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES, YOUR COMPANY'S. WE HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO PROTECT OUR SECRETS TO BEGIN TO REGULATE CYBER THE WAY YOU REGULATE ARMS INDUSTRY. I RESISTED IT. BECAUSE I SAID THAT CYBER IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO, BECAUSE WE ARE DIGITIZING THE WORLD. IT'S CLEAR. AS THAT GOES UP, CYBERSECURITY REQUIREMENTS GOES UP. IF WE BLOCK THAT, WE BLOCK A GROWTH INDUSTRY. SO FAR, I WANT YOU DO NOT, IT IS NOT EASY. I'VE DONE MY PART. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BASICALLY DONE THAT, AND ABLE THE FINEST MINDS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND CREATE THEIR COMPANIES, WHICH THEY DO. IT IS VERY ROBUST. WE ARE NUMBER TWO RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD IN ABSOLUTE FORMATION OF COMPANIES AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN CYBER. AND WE ARE A COUNTRY OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. OTHER THING WE DO, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, THAT SUNK COST ISIS -- I DESCRIBED TO YOU OF OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS AND OUR INFORMATION, OUR INTELLIGENCE UNITS, WE ARE MOVING TO THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY AND ALLOWING WHAT YOU CALL THE JARGON OF THE ECHO SYSTEM TO DEVELOP AROUND IT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOU TAKE THE ECONOMY AND THE BUSINESSES AND YOU PUT THEM IN. YOU PUT THEM WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. WALKING DISTANCE. IN PALO ALTO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WALKING DISTANCE OR JOGGING DISTANCE, WHAT YOU THINK THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT IS AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT. TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION. THE FERMENTATION TAKES PLACE, ALLOW FOREIGN COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS TO PARTAKE IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS. BUT TRY TO LOWER THE LIMITS, AND KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW AND KEEP YOUR REGULATIONS LOW. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT IS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE. FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE. I THINK CYBER PRESENTS NEW PROBLEMS, BIG PROBLEMS. I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE REALLY BIG ACTORS, STATE ACTORS, THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE IN CYBER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE AND OTHER FORMS OF ATTACKS. SO THE DEFENSE IS SOMEWHAT MORE COMPLICATED. WE TOOK A NATIONAL DEFENSE AGENCY, ESTABLISHED IT, GAVE IT AUTHORITY TO REGULATE, BUSINESSES AND SO ON, AND WE REALLY ORGANIZED THE QUESTION OF DEFENSE. NATIONAL DEFENSE, THE AIR FORCE, WHATEVER. CRITICAL FACILITIES ON THE ONE SIDE AND BUSINESSES. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS. AND THE MOST DIFFICULT, THE MOST COMPLEX PROBLEM CONCEPTUALLY IS TO SIMPLIFY IT. TRY TO SIMPLE IF I IT AND HAVE CLEAR FOUNDATIONS. BUT THE DEFENSE AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY STATE CYBER ATTACKS, IS COMP LOCATED. -- IS COMPLICATED. I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IS BECOMING A BIG PART, IN ADDITION TO CYBERCRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:31:15
TRIBUNE PACE IS THE PROBLEM -- THE ATTRIBUTION PACE IS THE PROBLEM, ISN'T IT?
00:31:26Benjamin Netanyahu
KNOW. -- NO. I THINK YOU KNOW. I THINK YOU KNOW. I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES YOU DO KNOW. THEN IT GETS INTO A QUESTION OF MIND GAMES. I DON'T WANT TO START PLAYING THOSE GAMES. I'M SORT OF OFF DUTY NOW AND DOING THIS FOR A LIVING EVERY DAY. SO I CAN'T GET INTO THAT. BUT I THINK IT IS VERY CHALLENGING. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY TO DEAL WITH THAT QUESTION, IS NOT MERELY TO NOT REGULATE. IF YOU HAVE THE INVESTMENTS ALREADY, WE DO, ALL THE TIME. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO DIRECT YOUR FUNDING, STATE FUNDING -- I'M ALWAYS RESISTANT TO THAT. I DON'T USUALLY DIRECT -- I WORKED IN THE CONSULTING ROOM. THERE WAS A CASE STUDY THERE OF ACTUALLY DOING A STRATEGY FOR A COUNTRY AND I FELT UNEASY WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THE BEST REGULATOR IS MARKET FORCES. IT REALLY ALLOWS YOU -- LET'S THE MARKET WORK, AND THEY USUALLY CHOOSE BETTER THAN YOU DO. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, CERTAINLY IN DEFENSE MATTERS WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE IN CYBER THAT WE NEED FOR ANY INNOVATION, THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE AN CYBER IS MATHEMATICS. A LOT OF MATHEMATICS. A LOT OF MATHEMATICS. AND I SAY MATHEMATICS, NOT JUST COMPUTATION. MATHEMATICS IS MORE IMPORTANT. AND IT WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE ALONG INTO OTHER DISCIPLINES. MATHEMATICS IS IT. SO THAT'S IT. IT'S LIKE FINDING OURSELVES IN THAT FILM "THE GRADUATE." REMEMBER CLASSICS? MATHEMATICS.
00:33:19 Borge Brende
THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRIME MINISTER. WE COULD HAVE GONE ON BECAUSE IT IS FASCINATING TO LISTEN TO YOU. BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A YOUNG SPEECHWRITER IN THE PARLIAMENT, THE PERSON I WAS WRITING THE SPEECHES FOR SAID, AND BEFORE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO END. AND HERE WE STILL COULD HAVE CONTINUED. PEOPLE WANTED YOU TO CONTINUE BUT I THINK WE ENDED AT A GOOD TIME. FOR YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS AND LOOKING FORWARD NEXT YEAR TO SEEING YOU BACK IN THE REAL DAVOS IN THE WINTER.
00:33:55Benjamin Netanyahu
THANK YOU. THIS WAS THE MOST DIPLOMATIC CUT OFF I'VE EVER HEARD. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. FIRST LET ME SAY, EVERYONE IN ISRAEL IS SUPREMELY DELIGHTED WITH THE PEACE WE HAVE. IS A WARM PEACE BETWEEN THE EMIRATES AND ISRAEL. IT IS JUST TREMENDOUS. NOW, MOROCCO AND SADDAM, WILL BE -- IT ALREADY IS AN ECONOMIC PEACE. WE BARELY SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS. AND THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS WENT TO DUBAI, IN THE BUSINESS PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING BANANAS. THEY ARE DOING FANTASTIC DEALS. IT IS GREAT BECAUSE THE EMIRATES HAVE PROVED TO BE AS TREMENDOUSLY ENTREPRENEURIAL, AND THEY ARE GUIDED BY YOUR VISIONARY LEADER. CHAIRMAN MOHAMMED IS A VISIONARY LEADER, AND HE UNDERSTANDS THE POWER OF INNOVATION, AND THE POWER TO DARE, TO DRINK. HE ALSO -- TO DARE, TO DREAM. TO HAVE THIS NEW KIND OF PEACE THAT IS CHANGING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND ARABS. I HAVE TO SAY, ARABS AND JEWS IN ISRAEL. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THIS IS DOING. NOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK WATER IS GOING TO BE A HUGE CHALLENGE, AND I THINK WE CAN OVERCOME IT AS MANY OTHER THINGS WITH TECHNOLOGY. IT IS ALMOST LIKE, WHY DID THE GREAT FORECAST NOT WORK OUT ON THE SHORTAGE OF FOOD, AND HUMANITIES GROWTH RATE? IT TURNS OUT -- IT TURNS OUT, IT DID GROW IN AN EXPONENTIAL RATE. BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT FOOD GREW AT A GREATER RATE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN WITH WATER. DID HAPPEN IN WATER IN THE CASE OF ISRAEL. WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS RAINFALL THAN WE HAD AT THE FOUNDING OF THE STATE 73 YEARS AGO. OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN TENFOLD. OUR GDP PER CAPITA HAS MULTIPLIED. SO WE SHOULD HAVE WATER SCARCITY -- WE SHOULD HAVE WATER WARS AND WE HAVE NEITHER. WHAT WE HAVE IS WE MAKE OUR WATER. OR WE SAVE OUR WATER. WE RECYCLE ABOUT 90% OF OUR WASTEWATER, WHICH IS THE FIRST IN THE WORLD. THE RUNNER-UP IS THEY WITH 20%, I THINK. PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY OF WATER, KEY. WE HAVE THE WORLD'S LARGEST, ONE OF THE LARGEST PERHAPS, SOMETHING -- THE EMIRATES AS WELL [INDISCERNIBLE] WE ARE USING SOLAR TECHNOLOGY TO BE THE WORLD LEADER IN PRODUCING SOLAR ENERGY. WE CAN DESALINATE WATER WITHOUT USING -- WITHOUT THE NECESSARY POLLUTION. THESE THINGS ARE COMBINED. WE NOW HAVE MORE WATER THAN WE NEED. IF WE NEED MORE WATER, WE MAKE IT. SINCE YOU CAN'T MAKE IT AT NIGHTTIME, PORT IN THE WINTER MONTHS, YOU SOMETIMES MAKE MORE THAN YOU NEED IN THE SUMMER. REVERSING OUR SUPPLY FROM THE SEA OF GALILEE WHICH WE USED TO CARRY WATER DOWN TO THE PARTS IN THE SOUTH OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE PUSHING WATER THROUGH THE RESERVOIR. WE ARE PUSHING IT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION DURING THE WINTERTIME. THESE ARE CREATIVE THINGS TO PREVENT LINKAGES AND SO ON FROM WATER SYSTEMS. YOU CAN USE TECHNOLOGY, YOU CAN OVERCOME THE WORLD'S WATER PROBLEMS. WE ARE SHARING THIS WITH COUNTRIES FROM CHINA TO YOU NAME IT. SOUTH AMERICA, AFRICA. WE SHARE THIS TECHNOLOGY GLADLY BECAUSE CORONA HAS SHOWN US THAT WE ARE ALL IN ONE BOAT. IF WE CAN PLUG THE HOLES IN THE BOAT, WE WILL ALL BE BETTER OFF.
00:25:31 Borge Brende
THANK YOU. WE ARE GLAD -- WE SUPPORT MORE PER DROP. WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION LEFT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- I DON'T WANT HIM TO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO COME WITH HIS QUESTION. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
00:25:47
THANK YOU. PRIME MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTS. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE MET IN DABO'S. YOU TOLD ME HOW ISRAEL HAS CYBER SECURITY. SEVEN YEARS LATER, IT IS NOW -- I KNOW IN THE LARGEST CYBERSECURITY COMPANY IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE SOME GREAT PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH AND ACQUIRE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP,. YOU ALLUDED TO SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WITH STEPHAN'S QUESTION OF WHY YOU WERE ABLE TO TURN ISRAEL INTO A POWERHOUSE ON THE CYBER TOPICS. WITH THAT BECOMING SO TOPICAL TODAY WITH ALL THE RECENT TAX PEOPLE LEARNED ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE COLLABORATION ON HOW YOU CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT. AND TWO, GIVEN WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST OFFICES IN TEL AVIV TALKING ABOUT THE CUTTING BUREAUCRACY AND MOVING, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GO UP THAT LETTER SO IT MAKES LIFE EASIER TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR INSIGHTS OF HOW CYBERSECURITY CONTINUES TO BE CENTER STAGE IN ISRAEL.
00:26:59 Benjamin Netanyahu
I HAVE ALREADY ACTED ON YOUR BEHALF, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T TELL YOU IT WAS OUR FIRST GOAL. I HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE, IMMENSE PRESSURE, AFTER WE DEVELOPED BASICALLY A VERY ROBUST CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY. WHICH MEANT BASICALLY ALLOWING ALL THESE GIFTED PEOPLE TO LEAD OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS TO FORM THEIR COMPANIES. AND PARTNER WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES, YOUR COMPANY'S. WE HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO PROTECT OUR SECRETS TO BEGIN TO REGULATE CYBER THE WAY YOU REGULATE ARMS INDUSTRY. I RESISTED IT. BECAUSE I SAID THAT CYBER IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO, BECAUSE WE ARE DIGITIZING THE WORLD. IT'S CLEAR. AS THAT GOES UP, CYBERSECURITY REQUIREMENTS GOES UP. IF WE BLOCK THAT, WE BLOCK A GROWTH INDUSTRY. SO FAR, I WANT YOU DO NOT, IT IS NOT EASY. I'VE DONE MY PART. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BASICALLY DONE THAT, AND ABLE THE FINEST MINDS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND CREATE THEIR COMPANIES, WHICH THEY DO. IT IS VERY ROBUST. WE ARE NUMBER TWO RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD IN ABSOLUTE FORMATION OF COMPANIES AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN CYBER. AND WE ARE A COUNTRY OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. OTHER THING WE DO, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, THAT SUNK COST ISIS -- I DESCRIBED TO YOU OF OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS AND OUR INFORMATION, OUR INTELLIGENCE UNITS, WE ARE MOVING TO THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY AND ALLOWING WHAT YOU CALL THE JARGON OF THE ECHO SYSTEM TO DEVELOP AROUND IT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOU TAKE THE ECONOMY AND THE BUSINESSES AND YOU PUT THEM IN. YOU PUT THEM WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. WALKING DISTANCE. IN PALO ALTO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WALKING DISTANCE OR JOGGING DISTANCE, WHAT YOU THINK THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT IS AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT. TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION. THE FERMENTATION TAKES PLACE, ALLOW FOREIGN COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS TO PARTAKE IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS. BUT TRY TO LOWER THE LIMITS, AND KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW AND KEEP YOUR REGULATIONS LOW. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT IS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE. FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE. I THINK CYBER PRESENTS NEW PROBLEMS, BIG PROBLEMS. I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE REALLY BIG ACTORS, STATE ACTORS, THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE IN CYBER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE AND OTHER FORMS OF ATTACKS. SO THE DEFENSE IS SOMEWHAT MORE COMPLICATED. WE TOOK A NATIONAL DEFENSE AGENCY, ESTABLISHED IT, GAVE IT AUTHORITY TO REGULATE, BUSINESSES AND SO ON, AND WE REALLY ORGANIZED THE QUESTION OF DEFENSE. NATIONAL DEFENSE, THE AIR FORCE, WHATEVER. CRITICAL FACILITIES ON THE ONE SIDE AND BUSINESSES. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS. AND THE MOST DIFFICULT, THE MOST COMPLEX PROBLEM CONCEPTUALLY IS TO SIMPLIFY IT. TRY TO SIMPLE IF I IT AND HAVE CLEAR FOUNDATIONS. BUT THE DEFENSE AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY STATE CYBER ATTACKS, IS COMP LOCATED. -- IS COMPLICATED. I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IS BECOMING A BIG PART, IN ADDITION TO CYBERCRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
00:25:31 Borge Brende
THANK YOU. WE ARE GLAD -- WE SUPPORT MORE PER DROP. WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION LEFT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- I DON'T WANT HIM TO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO COME WITH HIS QUESTION. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.PLEASE GO AHEAD.
Benjamin Netanyahu00:26:59
I HAVE ALREADY ACTED ON YOUR BEHALF, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T TELL YOU IT WAS OUR FIRST GOAL. I HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE, IMMENSE PRESSURE, AFTER WE DEVELOPED BASICALLY A VERY ROBUST CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY. WHICH MEANT BASICALLY ALLOWING ALL THESE GIFTED PEOPLE TO LEAD OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS TO FORM THEIR COMPANIES. AND PARTNER WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES, YOUR COMPANY'S. WE HAD IMMENSE PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO PROTECT OUR SECRETS TO BEGIN TO REGULATE CYBER THE WAY YOU REGULATE ARMS INDUSTRY. I RESISTED IT. BECAUSE I SAID THAT CYBER IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO, BECAUSE WE ARE DIGITIZING THE WORLD. IT'S CLEAR. AS THAT GOES UP, CYBERSECURITY REQUIREMENTS GOES UP. IF WE BLOCK THAT, WE BLOCK A GROWTH INDUSTRY. SO FAR, I WANT YOU DO NOT, IT IS NOT EASY. I'VE DONE MY PART. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BASICALLY DONE THAT, AND ABLE THE FINEST MINDS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND CREATE THEIR COMPANIES, WHICH THEY DO. IT IS VERY ROBUST. WE ARE NUMBER TWO RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD IN ABSOLUTE FORMATION OF COMPANIES AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN CYBER. AND WE ARE A COUNTRY OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. OTHER THING WE DO, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, THAT SUNK COST ISIS -- I DESCRIBED TO YOU OF OUR CYBERSECURITY UNITS AND OUR INFORMATION, OUR INTELLIGENCE UNITS, WE ARE MOVING TO THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY AND ALLOWING WHAT YOU CALL THE JARGON OF THE ECHO SYSTEM TO DEVELOP AROUND IT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOU TAKE THE ECONOMY AND THE BUSINESSES AND YOU PUT THEM IN. YOU PUT THEM WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. WALKING DISTANCE. IN PALO ALTO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WALKING DISTANCE OR JOGGING DISTANCE, WHAT YOU THINK THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT IS AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT. TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION. THE FERMENTATION TAKES PLACE, ALLOW FOREIGN COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS TO PARTAKE IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS. BUT TRY TO LOWER THE LIMITS, AND KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW AND KEEP YOUR REGULATIONS LOW. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT IS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE. FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE. I THINK CYBER PRESENTS NEW PROBLEMS, BIG PROBLEMS. I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE REALLY BIG ACTORS, STATE ACTORS, THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE IN CYBER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROBLEM OF DETERRENCE AND OTHER FORMS OF ATTACKS. SO THE DEFENSE IS SOMEWHAT MORE COMPLICATED. WE TOOK A NATIONAL DEFENSE AGENCY, ESTABLISHED IT, GAVE IT AUTHORITY TO REGULATE, BUSINESSES AND SO ON, AND WE REALLY ORGANIZED THE QUESTION OF DEFENSE. NATIONAL DEFENSE, THE AIR FORCE, WHATEVER. CRITICAL FACILITIES ON THE ONE SIDE AND BUSINESSES. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS. AND THE MOST DIFFICULT, THE MOST COMPLEX PROBLEM CONCEPTUALLY IS TO SIMPLIFY IT. TRY TO SIMPLE IF I IT AND HAVE CLEAR FOUNDATIONS. BUT THE DEFENSE AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY STATE CYBER ATTACKS, IS COMP LOCATED. -- IS COMPLICATED. I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IS BECOMING A BIG PART, IN ADDITION TO CYBERCRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:31:15
TRIBUNE PACE IS THE PROBLEM -- THE ATTRIBUTION PACE IS THE PROBLEM, ISN'T IT?
00:31:26Benjamin Netanyahu
KNOW. -- NO. I THINK YOU KNOW. I THINK YOU KNOW. I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES YOU DO KNOW. THEN IT GETS INTO A QUESTION OF MIND GAMES. I DON'T WANT TO START PLAYING THOSE GAMES. I'M SORT OF OFF DUTY NOW AND DOING THIS FOR A LIVING EVERY DAY. SO I CAN'T GET INTO THAT. BUT I THINK IT IS VERY CHALLENGING. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY TO DEAL WITH THAT QUESTION, IS NOT MERELY TO NOT REGULATE. IF YOU HAVE THE INVESTMENTS ALREADY, WE DO, ALL THE TIME. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO DIRECT YOUR FUNDING, STATE FUNDING -- I'M ALWAYS RESISTANT TO THAT. I DON'T USUALLY DIRECT -- I WORKED IN THE CONSULTING ROOM. THERE WAS A CASE STUDY THERE OF ACTUALLY DOING A STRATEGY FOR A COUNTRY AND I FELT UNEASY WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THE BEST REGULATOR IS MARKET FORCES. IT REALLY ALLOWS YOU -- LET'S THE MARKET WORK, AND THEY USUALLY CHOOSE BETTER THAN YOU DO. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, CERTAINLY IN DEFENSE MATTERS WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE IN CYBER THAT WE NEED FOR ANY INNOVATION, THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE AN CYBER IS MATHEMATICS. A LOT OF MATHEMATICS. A LOT OF MATHEMATICS. AND I SAY MATHEMATICS, NOT JUST COMPUTATION. MATHEMATICS IS MORE IMPORTANT. AND IT WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE ALONG INTO OTHER DISCIPLINES. MATHEMATICS IS IT. SO THAT'S IT. IT'S LIKE FINDING OURSELVES IN THAT FILM "THE GRADUATE." REMEMBER CLASSICS? MATHEMATICS.
00:33:19 Borge Brende
THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRIME MINISTER. WE COULD HAVE GONE ON BECAUSE IT IS FASCINATING TO LISTEN TO YOU. BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A YOUNG SPEECHWRITER IN THE PARLIAMENT, THE PERSON I WAS WRITING THE SPEECHES FOR SAID, AND BEFORE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO END. AND HERE WE STILL COULD HAVE CONTINUED. PEOPLE WANTED YOU TO CONTINUE BUT I THINK WE ENDED AT A GOOD TIME. FOR YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS AND LOOKING FORWARD NEXT YEAR TO SEEING YOU BACK IN THE REAL DAVOS IN THE WINTER.
00:33:55Benjamin Netanyahu
THANK YOU. THIS WAS THE MOST DIPLOMATIC CUT OFF I'VE EVER HEARD. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.
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