Speaker 21: (01:14:20)
Dustin, to your right. Congrats on a huge victory. The only other name in the lightweight equation is Justin Gaethje, who you already beat. Who do you think is more deserving of a title shot between Oliveira and Gaethje?
Dustin Poirier: (01:14:36)
Oliveira because he’s never had the opportunity. Gaethje just came out here and got beat, as I did. Not a knock on Gaethje, but he lost. I think Oliveira probably. Or let them fight to see who gets it. There are so many tough fighters in the 155 pound division.
Speaker 21: (01:15:02)
And lastly, what was the biggest difference you felt inside the octagon against Conor McGregor from 145 the first time to 155 this time?
Dustin Poirier: (01:15:12)
I just felt in the moment. I felt aware and I felt here. I was in the moment and ready to take advantage of any opportunity I can get. And it felt right tonight. When I walked into the octagon and the air hit me and the lights were on me and Bruce was introducing us it just felt right.
Speaker 15: (01:15:36)
Dustin. Over here to your left, Dustin. You mentioned the light kicks, the advice from Mike Brown on that. Do you think they were going to pay off in such a big way? Conor was in here saying that he has a football in his leg.
Dustin Poirier: (01:15:49)
I just know from experience how bad those things hurt. And I knew it was a five round fight so it would only get worse. It would only get worse. He started catching them and trying to counter me with his left hand towards the end, but I knew they were still landing. He was catching them after they were making contact. I knew they were still hurting him. And if he did catch it and take me down, then I was going to … It’s a five round fight. Of course you never want to give up a round, but I’d like to throw some submissions up and see what happens. I am a black belt in jujitsu. I’m very confident in my jujitsu. But I knew the leg kicks would be a problem because Jim Miller tore my leg up, and that was a three round fight. And I just know how painful it is.
Speaker 15: (01:16:28)You didn’t jump for any [guillies 01:16:30] tonight.
Dustin Poirier: (01:16:30)
I promise you I would have if there was an opportunity. I wanted to rename this Guillotine Island. When I’m laying down at night, I was thinking, I’m going to guillotine this guy. I’m going to get his neck. This is going to be Guillotine Island.
Speaker 15: (01:16:45)
It seems you’re a little bit torn about your future. I mean, after this, you’re in the top 10 for most wins in UFC history, you have the most knockouts in lightweight history, just knocked out the biggest star in the history of the sport.
Dustin Poirier: (01:16:56)
If I would have done the bulk of my UFC career, I mean, what did I do? Seven, eight, nine fights at featherweight? I’d knocked some guys out there too. I would really be running off with the list at lightweight then.
Speaker 15: (01:17:06)
Is there almost a feeling of, you held that interim belt to you, like you’ve kind of done a lot or almost it all in a way?
Dustin Poirier: (01:17:13)
Me and my wife were just talking about this. I feel like I’ve done it all except, obviously, I can’t walk away and say that I’m the champ. I want to be the champ. When you’re the champ, you’re the champ forever. And I want to be the champ, man. But yeah, I’ve seen the highest of the highs, the lowest of the lows in this sport. And I’ve built a very beautiful life for me and my family. I’m very proud of the work that I’ve put in. And fighting is just something I do at this point in my career, like I just said, but I honor this. I don’t take this stuff lightly, man. I really respect the opportunity. And that’s why it’s so close to my heart and I think can help so many other young children, so many boys and girls, just troubled youth, with my foundation. They can fight their way out too. I did it. I’m just like them. I’m nothing special. If I can do it, anyone could do it. But I feel like if you introduce troubled kids to martial arts and to goals and just be a positive person around them, that it can change your life, man. This changed my life. And I just want to share that with people.
Speaker 15: (01:18:22)
You kind of took my next question a little bit there. I mean, I know there’s aspects of this that you don’t enjoy the most, but the fact that you got a $500,000 donation from Conor’s team, you’re going to raise a bunch of other money through your auctions and everything, does that make maybe the things you don’t like so much about it worth it?
Dustin Poirier: (01:18:39)
Yeah, because I know what I’m fighting for. And of course I’m fighting for me and my family. First and foremost, I got to take care of me and mine. But everything else that I can put on my back and carry with me, because I’m doing it regardless. I’m going in there and fighting for my life regardless. As many people that can benefit from me getting in there, I want to stack it up, stack the weight on my back and let me carry that in there with me. I want to give people a reason to cheer. I want to give people a reason to smile. That means a lot to me.
Speaker 15: (01:19:10)
Last thing. You just knocked out a guy who went multiple rounds with Floyd Mayweather. You’ve beaten Max Holloway twice, as you said, who people are calling the best boxer. Are you the best boxer now?
Dustin Poirier: (01:19:20)
I am. But that wasn’t a knock on Max Holloway. I mean, I guess it kind of was, but respect to Max. He looked incredible. He looked incredible. But I just saw Conor earlier this week when Max said that Conor said, “Well, after Saturday, we’ll see who’s the best boxer.” No, I believe in my boxing, man, very much.
Speaker 15: (01:19:38)
And you told me when we did an interview two months out from this fight, “Maybe I’ll be the guy fighting Manny Pacquiao after this.”
Dustin Poirier: (01:19:44)
Maybe so. I’ve actually been in talks with Justin Wren and Fight for the Forgotten. He’s actually in Lafayette, Louisiana right now. But I just tossed this in there because you said Manny Pacquiao. We bought 40 acres for the pygmy people after the Khabib fight. We built some water wells obviously; that was a big goal. But then we had enough rollover money, so we bought them 40 acres to build housing on. And I just heard that the Manny Pacquiao Foundation I think is going to start building the housing on The Good Fight Foundation’s land that we bought for them. So man, fighting in general combat sports is doing some huge things, man, and I’m very proud to be a part of any of that.
Speaker 15: (01:20:21)Congrats, man.
Speaker 14: (01:20:22)
Dustin, can I ask you about … Sorry, over this way. I know it’s hard for you to see. Here we go. You talked about going in there with no emotion and being an assassin in there. Do you think part of Conor’s attitude change in those six years made any difference? You’ve been quite open about how mentally he tried to get under your skin the first time, but it’s been all totally different this time around.
Dustin Poirier: (01:20:46)
Yeah. I wasn’t sure that was a mental play as well. But I didn’t really pay a whole lot of mind to it. Maybe he’s just maturing and maybe he’s a father and maybe he just understands and respects the sport and the competitors. I don’t really know and I don’t really care. But every interaction I had with him fight week has been respectful. And I think because we both knew what we’re going to do, we’re both coming in here, I mean, we can shake hands and say good luck with whiskey and hot sauce sales and whatever not, and we know when that door closes, two men in and one man leaves the Thunderdome.
Speaker 14: (01:21:25)
And you were just talking about your great foundation. Can you give us some kind of insight into your plans with these donations and the great things that are going to come from this fight for it?
Dustin Poirier: (01:21:34)
Yeah. I have a big goal right now that we’re crowdfunding for The Boys and Girls Club of Acadiana and their six locations. We’re trying to help them with their Project Learn initiative. The pandemic has been tough on children as well, especially children from single parents. And there’s just so much to speak about, about this. But I’ll just say that we’re teaming up with The Boys and Girls Club to provide transportation and tutoring for the year of 2021, so the rest of this year. Transportation to and from six clubs and tutoring for the children as well who are learning from a distance.
Speaker 14: (01:22:12)Awesome. Congratulations.
Dustin Poirier: (01:22:13)Thank you so much.
Dustin Poirier: (01:22:19)Thank you, guys.
Dustin, to your right. Congrats on a huge victory. The only other name in the lightweight equation is Justin Gaethje, who you already beat. Who do you think is more deserving of a title shot between Oliveira and Gaethje?
Dustin Poirier: (01:14:36)
Oliveira because he’s never had the opportunity. Gaethje just came out here and got beat, as I did. Not a knock on Gaethje, but he lost. I think Oliveira probably. Or let them fight to see who gets it. There are so many tough fighters in the 155 pound division.
Speaker 21: (01:15:02)
And lastly, what was the biggest difference you felt inside the octagon against Conor McGregor from 145 the first time to 155 this time?
Dustin Poirier: (01:15:12)
I just felt in the moment. I felt aware and I felt here. I was in the moment and ready to take advantage of any opportunity I can get. And it felt right tonight. When I walked into the octagon and the air hit me and the lights were on me and Bruce was introducing us it just felt right.
Speaker 15: (01:15:36)
Dustin. Over here to your left, Dustin. You mentioned the light kicks, the advice from Mike Brown on that. Do you think they were going to pay off in such a big way? Conor was in here saying that he has a football in his leg.
Dustin Poirier: (01:15:49)
I just know from experience how bad those things hurt. And I knew it was a five round fight so it would only get worse. It would only get worse. He started catching them and trying to counter me with his left hand towards the end, but I knew they were still landing. He was catching them after they were making contact. I knew they were still hurting him. And if he did catch it and take me down, then I was going to … It’s a five round fight. Of course you never want to give up a round, but I’d like to throw some submissions up and see what happens. I am a black belt in jujitsu. I’m very confident in my jujitsu. But I knew the leg kicks would be a problem because Jim Miller tore my leg up, and that was a three round fight. And I just know how painful it is.
Speaker 15: (01:16:28)You didn’t jump for any [guillies 01:16:30] tonight.
Dustin Poirier: (01:16:30)
I promise you I would have if there was an opportunity. I wanted to rename this Guillotine Island. When I’m laying down at night, I was thinking, I’m going to guillotine this guy. I’m going to get his neck. This is going to be Guillotine Island.
Speaker 15: (01:16:45)
It seems you’re a little bit torn about your future. I mean, after this, you’re in the top 10 for most wins in UFC history, you have the most knockouts in lightweight history, just knocked out the biggest star in the history of the sport.
Dustin Poirier: (01:16:56)
If I would have done the bulk of my UFC career, I mean, what did I do? Seven, eight, nine fights at featherweight? I’d knocked some guys out there too. I would really be running off with the list at lightweight then.
Speaker 15: (01:17:06)
Is there almost a feeling of, you held that interim belt to you, like you’ve kind of done a lot or almost it all in a way?
Dustin Poirier: (01:17:13)
Me and my wife were just talking about this. I feel like I’ve done it all except, obviously, I can’t walk away and say that I’m the champ. I want to be the champ. When you’re the champ, you’re the champ forever. And I want to be the champ, man. But yeah, I’ve seen the highest of the highs, the lowest of the lows in this sport. And I’ve built a very beautiful life for me and my family. I’m very proud of the work that I’ve put in. And fighting is just something I do at this point in my career, like I just said, but I honor this. I don’t take this stuff lightly, man. I really respect the opportunity. And that’s why it’s so close to my heart and I think can help so many other young children, so many boys and girls, just troubled youth, with my foundation. They can fight their way out too. I did it. I’m just like them. I’m nothing special. If I can do it, anyone could do it. But I feel like if you introduce troubled kids to martial arts and to goals and just be a positive person around them, that it can change your life, man. This changed my life. And I just want to share that with people.
Speaker 15: (01:18:22)
You kind of took my next question a little bit there. I mean, I know there’s aspects of this that you don’t enjoy the most, but the fact that you got a $500,000 donation from Conor’s team, you’re going to raise a bunch of other money through your auctions and everything, does that make maybe the things you don’t like so much about it worth it?
Dustin Poirier: (01:18:39)
Yeah, because I know what I’m fighting for. And of course I’m fighting for me and my family. First and foremost, I got to take care of me and mine. But everything else that I can put on my back and carry with me, because I’m doing it regardless. I’m going in there and fighting for my life regardless. As many people that can benefit from me getting in there, I want to stack it up, stack the weight on my back and let me carry that in there with me. I want to give people a reason to cheer. I want to give people a reason to smile. That means a lot to me.
Speaker 15: (01:19:10)
Last thing. You just knocked out a guy who went multiple rounds with Floyd Mayweather. You’ve beaten Max Holloway twice, as you said, who people are calling the best boxer. Are you the best boxer now?
Dustin Poirier: (01:19:20)
I am. But that wasn’t a knock on Max Holloway. I mean, I guess it kind of was, but respect to Max. He looked incredible. He looked incredible. But I just saw Conor earlier this week when Max said that Conor said, “Well, after Saturday, we’ll see who’s the best boxer.” No, I believe in my boxing, man, very much.
Speaker 15: (01:19:38)
And you told me when we did an interview two months out from this fight, “Maybe I’ll be the guy fighting Manny Pacquiao after this.”
Dustin Poirier: (01:19:44)
Maybe so. I’ve actually been in talks with Justin Wren and Fight for the Forgotten. He’s actually in Lafayette, Louisiana right now. But I just tossed this in there because you said Manny Pacquiao. We bought 40 acres for the pygmy people after the Khabib fight. We built some water wells obviously; that was a big goal. But then we had enough rollover money, so we bought them 40 acres to build housing on. And I just heard that the Manny Pacquiao Foundation I think is going to start building the housing on The Good Fight Foundation’s land that we bought for them. So man, fighting in general combat sports is doing some huge things, man, and I’m very proud to be a part of any of that.
Speaker 15: (01:20:21)Congrats, man.
Speaker 14: (01:20:22)
Dustin, can I ask you about … Sorry, over this way. I know it’s hard for you to see. Here we go. You talked about going in there with no emotion and being an assassin in there. Do you think part of Conor’s attitude change in those six years made any difference? You’ve been quite open about how mentally he tried to get under your skin the first time, but it’s been all totally different this time around.
Dustin Poirier: (01:20:46)
Yeah. I wasn’t sure that was a mental play as well. But I didn’t really pay a whole lot of mind to it. Maybe he’s just maturing and maybe he’s a father and maybe he just understands and respects the sport and the competitors. I don’t really know and I don’t really care. But every interaction I had with him fight week has been respectful. And I think because we both knew what we’re going to do, we’re both coming in here, I mean, we can shake hands and say good luck with whiskey and hot sauce sales and whatever not, and we know when that door closes, two men in and one man leaves the Thunderdome.
Speaker 14: (01:21:25)
And you were just talking about your great foundation. Can you give us some kind of insight into your plans with these donations and the great things that are going to come from this fight for it?
Dustin Poirier: (01:21:34)
Yeah. I have a big goal right now that we’re crowdfunding for The Boys and Girls Club of Acadiana and their six locations. We’re trying to help them with their Project Learn initiative. The pandemic has been tough on children as well, especially children from single parents. And there’s just so much to speak about, about this. But I’ll just say that we’re teaming up with The Boys and Girls Club to provide transportation and tutoring for the year of 2021, so the rest of this year. Transportation to and from six clubs and tutoring for the children as well who are learning from a distance.
Speaker 14: (01:22:12)Awesome. Congratulations.
Dustin Poirier: (01:22:13)Thank you so much.
Dustin Poirier: (01:22:19)Thank you, guys.
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