Have you been asked "why do(do not) kendo player ...?"
in the U.S?
Although I've not been asked that, I wanna prepare the
reason. Because I am a Japanese kendo pleyer.In Japan, I haven't care the reasons.
If you have almost same problems like mine,
let's discuss that!
I am sorry for my poor Englsh, but please write down
in Englsh. Because it's easy to explain to american.
It's my first question.
☆Why can not kendo player walk over banboo sword?
Is it a simple question?
I know bamboo swords represent our spirits.
However, I am not sure the reason why we can not
walk over bamboo swords.
What does Walking over bamboo swords means?
I have heard the action means disrespect for kendo
player.
I can't connect the ideas between the action and
the disrespect.
in the U.S?
Although I've not been asked that, I wanna prepare the
reason. Because I am a Japanese kendo pleyer.In Japan, I haven't care the reasons.
If you have almost same problems like mine,
let's discuss that!
I am sorry for my poor Englsh, but please write down
in Englsh. Because it's easy to explain to american.
It's my first question.
☆Why can not kendo player walk over banboo sword?
Is it a simple question?
I know bamboo swords represent our spirits.
However, I am not sure the reason why we can not
walk over bamboo swords.
What does Walking over bamboo swords means?
I have heard the action means disrespect for kendo
player.
I can't connect the ideas between the action and
the disrespect.
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I agree with RED san. I want to add a few words.
As you know, to step on something can mean 'to disgrace' it in Japan. So, to step on Shinai ('a form of sword') is not only dangerous but disgraceful action.
I found that the Westerners have a hard time understanding the concept of 'Kami' and 'Shimo'. I was often annoyed when they put their feet on the coffee table or sit on my sleeping pillow. To me, sleeping pillow (where my 'kami'=head rest) should never be touched by stinky foot ('shimo'=foot)! How dirty and 'disgraeful'!
Also, it was hard to exlain them about the seating order ('kamiza and shimoza').
Do people in your Dojo understand it well?
As you know, to step on something can mean 'to disgrace' it in Japan. So, to step on Shinai ('a form of sword') is not only dangerous but disgraceful action.
I found that the Westerners have a hard time understanding the concept of 'Kami' and 'Shimo'. I was often annoyed when they put their feet on the coffee table or sit on my sleeping pillow. To me, sleeping pillow (where my 'kami'=head rest) should never be touched by stinky foot ('shimo'=foot)! How dirty and 'disgraeful'!
Also, it was hard to exlain them about the seating order ('kamiza and shimoza').
Do people in your Dojo understand it well?
>Red-san
Thank you for your response!
First reason is
shinai is a sword, and treat it as it can cut.
O.K. However, some teachers directly hit
students with shinai in japan.
When I was young, my teacher directly hit me because
he tried to correct my bad steps(ashisabaki).
He had 7 dan degree.
What do you think about it?
If we have to treat shinai as important as sword,
we can not do many things!
For example, we can not use shinai in ashisabaki
practice.(shinai behind your back and hold your
shinai by arms.It is so difficult to explain!)
(両肘を小川なおやさんのハッスルハッスル状態にして
そのまま肘をさらに後ろに引いて下さい。姿勢をよくするために背中とその肘の間に竹刀を入れて送り足をする練習です。日本語でも難しい。。。この説明で分かりますか？？)
Have you practiced this one? Maybe this one is famous
practice in Japan.
I think many Japanese kendo player don't think shinai as
important as sword.
Although I wrote above that, I agree with Red san.
It's a good reason.
second reason is
respect.
Is stepping over shinai disreputable action?
who decided it? why??
I think many american can not understand this idea
that averything has spirits; Because they waste
many things such as paper or electricity...
so,I think ,first we have to teach them this idea;
then tell them the reason.
It is hard work, isn't it?
>Kei-san
though I dont't care about them, shimo and kami are important in Japan. Many people try to deal with this problem.For example, my friends take care that who sit down
kamiza in pub(Izakaya). Why do Japanese mind them?
When I sew someone put their feet on a table,
I felt bad. because the table can be used by other people next time! Maybe, the feeling is sympathy.
I don't know my dojo's people understand them.
Maybe not?
Thank you for your response!
First reason is
shinai is a sword, and treat it as it can cut.
O.K. However, some teachers directly hit
students with shinai in japan.
When I was young, my teacher directly hit me because
he tried to correct my bad steps(ashisabaki).
He had 7 dan degree.
What do you think about it?
If we have to treat shinai as important as sword,
we can not do many things!
For example, we can not use shinai in ashisabaki
practice.(shinai behind your back and hold your
shinai by arms.It is so difficult to explain!)
(両肘を小川なおやさんのハッスルハッスル状態にして
そのまま肘をさらに後ろに引いて下さい。姿勢をよくするために背中とその肘の間に竹刀を入れて送り足をする練習です。日本語でも難しい。。。この説明で分かりますか？？)
Have you practiced this one? Maybe this one is famous
practice in Japan.
I think many Japanese kendo player don't think shinai as
important as sword.
Although I wrote above that, I agree with Red san.
It's a good reason.
second reason is
respect.
Is stepping over shinai disreputable action?
who decided it? why??
I think many american can not understand this idea
that averything has spirits; Because they waste
many things such as paper or electricity...
so,I think ,first we have to teach them this idea;
then tell them the reason.
It is hard work, isn't it?
>Kei-san
though I dont't care about them, shimo and kami are important in Japan. Many people try to deal with this problem.For example, my friends take care that who sit down
kamiza in pub(Izakaya). Why do Japanese mind them?
When I sew someone put their feet on a table,
I felt bad. because the table can be used by other people next time! Maybe, the feeling is sympathy.
I don't know my dojo's people understand them.
Maybe not?
Hello, everyone. My name is Matt (Matsunosuke) and I am American. I have not yet started kendo, but I am planning on it soon when class begins in the fall. I am very much looking forward to it. I joined Mixi at the behest of my friend Kei-san.
It is interesting to learn that you should walk over a shinnai. Do you mean to step over or to step on?
I was hoping to learn some traditional Kendo here in America (in Northern Virginia, near Washington, D.C.) but I feel it will be difficult in America.
I recently visited Japan and observed a small Kendo dojo in Kyouto. It was a very rewarding experience. I just wish my Japanese was better, so I could have adequately conveyed how much of an honor it was attend the class.
If you know of good Kendo dojos in America, please let me know!
Thanks!
松ちゃん
It is interesting to learn that you should walk over a shinnai. Do you mean to step over or to step on?
I was hoping to learn some traditional Kendo here in America (in Northern Virginia, near Washington, D.C.) but I feel it will be difficult in America.
I recently visited Japan and observed a small Kendo dojo in Kyouto. It was a very rewarding experience. I just wish my Japanese was better, so I could have adequately conveyed how much of an honor it was attend the class.
If you know of good Kendo dojos in America, please let me know!
Thanks!
松ちゃん
Red-san,
Thank you for your replies! I will take a look at the links you have posted and hopefully I will find some dojos.
I understand the meaning behind your words about not stepping on or over a shinai. American and Japanese people have different ideas on what "respect" means. Since Japan is a much older country than America, Japanese people tend to have a older more traditional approach to "repect" in general. It's one of the things that I admire about the Japanese culture.
This is not to say that Americans do not understand respect, only that they may have different ideas on what it means.
As for your answer, I was interested to learn about this from you. The belief that everything thing has spirit, and should be honored tells me that you should respect your tools (or weapons) for what they are. I was quite satisfied with this answer.
In America, we have a similar feeling of respect for tools. A man who takes good care of his tools has a better understanding for what they are used for and will do a better job with them. I learned this particular form of respect from my father.
Kei-san,
I will be sure to not walk over any shinai in my future!
Thank you for your replies! I will take a look at the links you have posted and hopefully I will find some dojos.
I understand the meaning behind your words about not stepping on or over a shinai. American and Japanese people have different ideas on what "respect" means. Since Japan is a much older country than America, Japanese people tend to have a older more traditional approach to "repect" in general. It's one of the things that I admire about the Japanese culture.
This is not to say that Americans do not understand respect, only that they may have different ideas on what it means.
As for your answer, I was interested to learn about this from you. The belief that everything thing has spirit, and should be honored tells me that you should respect your tools (or weapons) for what they are. I was quite satisfied with this answer.
In America, we have a similar feeling of respect for tools. A man who takes good care of his tools has a better understanding for what they are used for and will do a better job with them. I learned this particular form of respect from my father.
Kei-san,
I will be sure to not walk over any shinai in my future!
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