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Heh, I'll be loafing around somewhere in Tokyo. I don't even know where I'd find turkey around here. I'll probably go out for mexican or something...lol.
Maybe we should have a "everyone who's in Tokyo and has nothing to do for turkeyday" Party!
(Wow, I just realized turkey is this thursday! Maybe I'll take the day off from work citing something about my religion...)
Maybe we should have a "everyone who's in Tokyo and has nothing to do for turkeyday" Party!
(Wow, I just realized turkey is this thursday! Maybe I'll take the day off from work citing something about my religion...)
LOL, not that I know of...I just know you usually end up eating so much that you get sleepy when your stomache tries to digest it all. Maybe he was being sarcastic? Either way, have fun at the party and enjoy the turkey! Turkey isn't all that great actually...it's usually overcooked and dry, but it's being with friends and family and having fun that's usally worth it.
Actually, yes. there is a chemical in Turkey that makes you sleepy!! It's called "tryptophan"．The chemical is also thought to trigger increased levels of the chemical Serotonen （which is the chemical responsible for feeling good). Unfortunately, abnormal rises in serotonen lead to depression later. This could explain why someone might not feel so well after they've slept off their turkey meal. Anyway, that's all from me!
why don't u go to costco if u live in tokyo? i think there is one in Makuhari area. and what u need is just to bake a turkey and invite ur friends. or u can have turkey any restaurant in tokyo.
i will have thanxgiving tomorrow cuz i live in the U.S. now. most of all restaurant will be closed here. i don't like thick meat so i cannot eat turkey every year but i like to have a "party"!
hope everyone will have a good thanxgiving day!!
i will have thanxgiving tomorrow cuz i live in the U.S. now. most of all restaurant will be closed here. i don't like thick meat so i cannot eat turkey every year but i like to have a "party"!
hope everyone will have a good thanxgiving day!!
Lol...I told my friend it was thanksgiving today...He had totally forgotten until I mentioned it. I don't even think we have an oven here so cooking it seems to be out of the question...sigh. I ended up having katus curry and then falling asleep for the rest of the day. I skipped work without telling anyone too!
I think I'll just go get sushi in Ikebukuro later and call it a successful thanksgiving since I didn't have to see any relatives....
I think I'll just go get sushi in Ikebukuro later and call it a successful thanksgiving since I didn't have to see any relatives....
"LOL, the concentration of tryptophan is too low in turkey, there's no way it would make you sleepy in comparison to all the other natural processes of digestion that will make you sleepy."
Not true, but whatever. I hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving! I also forgot about it, but I didn't really miss it so no prob.
Not true, but whatever. I hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving! I also forgot about it, but I didn't really miss it so no prob.
Fujiko-chan, apparently your assertion about the tryptophan is not correct.
MONTREAL, Nov. 23 (UPI) -- There's reportedly good Thanksgiving news for turkey
lovers: Contrary to popular belief, tryptophan in turkey doesn't cause
drowsiness.
In fact, scientists told National Geographic News the substance could possibly
aid in the treatment of depression and multiple sclerosis.
Purified tryptophan is a mild sleep-inducing agent and that probably led to the
idea that foods containing heavy doses of the chemical cause drowsiness.
But tryptophan can't function well as part of a meal.
"Tryptophan is taken to the brain by an active transport system shared by a
number of other amino acids and there's competition among them -- like a crowd
of people trying to get through a revolving door," Simon Young, a neurochemist
at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, told National Geographic News.
He said consuming tryptophan-rich foods may cause blood levels of the amino
acid to rise, but not enough tryptophan will reach one's brain to have a
sedative affect.
And, scientists told NGN, turkey isn't even unusually high in tryptophan. Many
other foods, such as beef or soybeans, have higher concentrations.
Dinner was over the top! Lobster, turkey, steaks, wine pumpkin pie and too much booze...
MONTREAL, Nov. 23 (UPI) -- There's reportedly good Thanksgiving news for turkey
lovers: Contrary to popular belief, tryptophan in turkey doesn't cause
drowsiness.
In fact, scientists told National Geographic News the substance could possibly
aid in the treatment of depression and multiple sclerosis.
Purified tryptophan is a mild sleep-inducing agent and that probably led to the
idea that foods containing heavy doses of the chemical cause drowsiness.
But tryptophan can't function well as part of a meal.
"Tryptophan is taken to the brain by an active transport system shared by a
number of other amino acids and there's competition among them -- like a crowd
of people trying to get through a revolving door," Simon Young, a neurochemist
at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, told National Geographic News.
He said consuming tryptophan-rich foods may cause blood levels of the amino
acid to rise, but not enough tryptophan will reach one's brain to have a
sedative affect.
And, scientists told NGN, turkey isn't even unusually high in tryptophan. Many
other foods, such as beef or soybeans, have higher concentrations.
Dinner was over the top! Lobster, turkey, steaks, wine pumpkin pie and too much booze...
Cohiba, I appreciate you taking the time to look up the article and to post it here.
I wasn't asserting that turkey made everyone drowsy, I was merely correcting the previous assertion that there was no chemical (at all--regardless of levels high or low) in turkey that caused drowsiness.
"Tryptophan and Serotonin
Turkey contains tryptophan. Tryptophan does cause a sedative-like effect on the body, and it is also a chemical precursor of serotonin. Serotonin is one of a group of chemical messengers known as neurotransmitters that carry out communication in the brain and body. Low serotonin levels have been linked to sleep disorders and depression. When you consume tryptophan, your body can convert it into serotonin and hence raise serotonin levels. The synthesis of serotonin is a two-step process involving a hydroxylation reaction catalyzed by the enzyme tryptophan-5-monooxygenase and then a decarboxylation catalyzed by l-amino acid decarboxylase. Hence, tryptophan consumption can raise serotonin levels.
Several factors should diminish the special way we perceive the sleep-inducing ability of turkey. For one, turkey is not so special. Equivalent servings of chicken and ground beef contain equivalent amounts of tryptophan (about 320 mg per 3.5 oz). We don't normally associate sleepiness with these foods.
Also, for people who need tryptophan supplements, it is recommended that they take them on an empty stomach. This makes absorption much easier, and the tryptophan does not have to compete with other nutrients. The "Thanksgiving stomach" is not an ideal situation for absorption; tryptophan has to compete with other amino acids and all the food consumed, before it can be digested and then absorbed." --http://www.chemistry.org/portal/a/c/s/1/feature_ent.html?DOC=enthusiasts%5Cent_tryptophan.html
I should have made it clearer in my last post, which is my fault. In my previous post I was responding more to the assertion (without support--just like the one before it that there was no chemical in turkey at all that might cause drowsiness) that:
"there's no way it would make you sleepy in comparison to all the other natural processes of digestion that will make you sleepy"
Key phrase is "there's no way," but then I'm just being too picky about the language (and even then, only because the initial message was brow-furrowing). Anyhoo, in my own opinion, I'm pretty sure a full stomach just makes people drowsy, with or without help from certain other foods and the chemicals, or traces thereof, they may or may not have.
Thanks again for the response though. Glad to see someone else looked it up too.
I wasn't asserting that turkey made everyone drowsy, I was merely correcting the previous assertion that there was no chemical (at all--regardless of levels high or low) in turkey that caused drowsiness.
"Tryptophan and Serotonin
Turkey contains tryptophan. Tryptophan does cause a sedative-like effect on the body, and it is also a chemical precursor of serotonin. Serotonin is one of a group of chemical messengers known as neurotransmitters that carry out communication in the brain and body. Low serotonin levels have been linked to sleep disorders and depression. When you consume tryptophan, your body can convert it into serotonin and hence raise serotonin levels. The synthesis of serotonin is a two-step process involving a hydroxylation reaction catalyzed by the enzyme tryptophan-5-monooxygenase and then a decarboxylation catalyzed by l-amino acid decarboxylase. Hence, tryptophan consumption can raise serotonin levels.
Several factors should diminish the special way we perceive the sleep-inducing ability of turkey. For one, turkey is not so special. Equivalent servings of chicken and ground beef contain equivalent amounts of tryptophan (about 320 mg per 3.5 oz). We don't normally associate sleepiness with these foods.
Also, for people who need tryptophan supplements, it is recommended that they take them on an empty stomach. This makes absorption much easier, and the tryptophan does not have to compete with other nutrients. The "Thanksgiving stomach" is not an ideal situation for absorption; tryptophan has to compete with other amino acids and all the food consumed, before it can be digested and then absorbed." --http://www.chemistry.org/portal/a/c/s/1/feature_ent.html?DOC=enthusiasts%5Cent_tryptophan.html
I should have made it clearer in my last post, which is my fault. In my previous post I was responding more to the assertion (without support--just like the one before it that there was no chemical in turkey at all that might cause drowsiness) that:
"there's no way it would make you sleepy in comparison to all the other natural processes of digestion that will make you sleepy"
Key phrase is "there's no way," but then I'm just being too picky about the language (and even then, only because the initial message was brow-furrowing). Anyhoo, in my own opinion, I'm pretty sure a full stomach just makes people drowsy, with or without help from certain other foods and the chemicals, or traces thereof, they may or may not have.
Thanks again for the response though. Glad to see someone else looked it up too.
ricochetto--it's not really controversial. You asked a question,someone answered incorrectly, and then a correction was made. An extra person's imput, two articles, and a handfull of posts later, the fact still remains that there is a chemical in turkey that, in certain quantities, can cause drowsiness. Nothing controversial at all, though you'd think we had been discussing abortion or the death penalty.
I so agree that turkey kinda sucks--it's too dry. I prefer goose or duck myself; not as lean as chicken, but so much tastier (there's more fat in the skin)!
I so agree that turkey kinda sucks--it's too dry. I prefer goose or duck myself; not as lean as chicken, but so much tastier (there's more fat in the skin)!
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