Hi, everyone!!
I'd like to ask you about learning English at school.
Could you give me your opinion?
These are questions:
-Why do we learn English at school?
-What is the best advantage of learning English at school?
Some students don’t take English class at school seriously while they go to Juku or English conversation schools like NOVA or AEON. Some students consider English classes less important than Juku. However, school is a still special place for students to study. It might be because of the environment that they study or work with their friends in the same classes or the same clubs. If we can, discus this further:
-How can teachers use the environment of school as an effective tool of English learning?
Thank you!!
I'd like to ask you about learning English at school.
Could you give me your opinion?
These are questions:
-Why do we learn English at school?
-What is the best advantage of learning English at school?
Some students don’t take English class at school seriously while they go to Juku or English conversation schools like NOVA or AEON. Some students consider English classes less important than Juku. However, school is a still special place for students to study. It might be because of the environment that they study or work with their friends in the same classes or the same clubs. If we can, discus this further:
-How can teachers use the environment of school as an effective tool of English learning?
Thank you!!
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If the students don't take the English classes seriously, there must be a good reason for it. I'd say it is because English is just a school subject and something you have to study for the exams. You do learn important basics in the classroom, but the kids choose what they consider a more efficient way to learn English - such as the "conversation schools" - without realizing that they won't be able to learn well without the basic knowledge of the language.
The education system in Japan must change so it will treat English (and any other foreign languages) more as tools for communication than one of the exam subjects. I would also venture to say they'd be better off making English an elective course, not required. I don't see why everyone has to learn it. How many of them will really use English once they leave school?
The education system in Japan must change so it will treat English (and any other foreign languages) more as tools for communication than one of the exam subjects. I would also venture to say they'd be better off making English an elective course, not required. I don't see why everyone has to learn it. How many of them will really use English once they leave school?
"The education system in Japan must change so it will treat English (and any other foreign languages) more as tools for communication than one of the exam subjects. I would also venture to say they'd be better off making English an elective course, not required. I don't see why everyone has to learn it. How many of them will really use English once they leave school?"
I agree wholeheartedly. English classes in Japan aren't geared towards communication in English, and probably shouldn't be required.
I agree wholeheartedly. English classes in Japan aren't geared towards communication in English, and probably shouldn't be required.
School is where the students jack around and sleep all day, and juku is where they actually study... if you ask me it would make more sense just to do well in school.. that way they could spend their nights in more enjoyable ways.
ドクターハウス＞yeah I agree with you, but there are a lot of Japanese that think the children's Japanese abilities will be compromised if English is introduced at a young age.. I think it that is absolutely ridiculous...but their is no reasoning with some of these people.
たいほど＞elective course.. yes I agree.. the government is pouring money into some kids (at my school) that after 5 something years of English education still are not sure how to spell their own names in Romaji.... seriously WTF?? Why teach them after a certain point if they don't want to learn... after 1st year in high school... English should be an elective.. at least at low level schools..
ドクターハウス＞yeah I agree with you, but there are a lot of Japanese that think the children's Japanese abilities will be compromised if English is introduced at a young age.. I think it that is absolutely ridiculous...but their is no reasoning with some of these people.
たいほど＞elective course.. yes I agree.. the government is pouring money into some kids (at my school) that after 5 something years of English education still are not sure how to spell their own names in Romaji.... seriously WTF?? Why teach them after a certain point if they don't want to learn... after 1st year in high school... English should be an elective.. at least at low level schools..
>>ieye
i agree with you! Come to think of it, I never heard poeple say hobby here, NewZealand.. School cannot teach really practical English.
Most of students think English as one of subjects to enter University and get better job. In fact, companies also judge one's English level by TOEIC which is also not practical. Actually a few of them use English in their career, like interpreter, so not everyone is complaining about Japanese school system of teaching English.
So learning english in school is still important, I think.
As another reason, this is really personal experience thou, if I had not studied grammer and reading based english in Jr.and high school,I could not have survived in university in newzealand. (tutor always tells me to watch my grammer and wording thou...) So I felt that my school's english classes helped me at some extent.
But it is still true that students cannot get speaking skill nor understand humor n stuff even if they study hard at school.
i agree with you! Come to think of it, I never heard poeple say hobby here, NewZealand.. School cannot teach really practical English.
Most of students think English as one of subjects to enter University and get better job. In fact, companies also judge one's English level by TOEIC which is also not practical. Actually a few of them use English in their career, like interpreter, so not everyone is complaining about Japanese school system of teaching English.
So learning english in school is still important, I think.
As another reason, this is really personal experience thou, if I had not studied grammer and reading based english in Jr.and high school,I could not have survived in university in newzealand. (tutor always tells me to watch my grammer and wording thou...) So I felt that my school's english classes helped me at some extent.
But it is still true that students cannot get speaking skill nor understand humor n stuff even if they study hard at school.
Punk-co (#8),
>> if I had not studied grammer and reading based
>> english in Jr.and high school,I could not have
>> survived in university in newzealand.
Yeah, that's exactly my point. You cannot build a castle on top of the sand. :)
BTW, if you wouldn't mind me being picky here, it's "grammar," not "grammer." ;)
Let me ask you one question. What makes you think TOEIC is not practical? I've never taken it, but I hear it's more useful than TOEFL (at least).
>> if I had not studied grammer and reading based
>> english in Jr.and high school,I could not have
>> survived in university in newzealand.
Yeah, that's exactly my point. You cannot build a castle on top of the sand. :)
BTW, if you wouldn't mind me being picky here, it's "grammar," not "grammer." ;)
Let me ask you one question. What makes you think TOEIC is not practical? I've never taken it, but I hear it's more useful than TOEFL (at least).
To learn English at school you need one of 2 things.
Either a good teacher or a good student. If the student
is really motivated they can learn even from a bad
teacher. If the teacher is good he/she can make
learning English interesting even for a student who
struggles.
Actually, speaking of translators, I just got a book
which claims to teach Japanese the way translators are
taught languages. It's called "Shadowing" and it seems
really good.
rajio> I think it works best as a two way street, especially when it comes to language. Many Japanese complain that "they have studied English so long (10 years) but still cannot communicate. Which to me begs the question.. "were you really all that serious about learning?" I've been learning Japanese for 6 years now. I had three years when I took some classes, and 3 years just working off and on on my own. At this point I feel pretty fluent I will try to pass the top level Japanese language proficiency exam this year, and I feel pretty confident about it. My point is... the student must be motived first. langauge learning takes practice and discipline. If one doesn't give it their best they probably won't be successful. It is tough news to some people but hitting eikaiwa classes once a week for an hour and doing nothing else isn't going to cut it. My advice for studying English.. practice, practice, practice!!! unless you are a language genius there is no way around it I think.
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