Probably (initially anyway) Mac users are only gonna be hyped on this, but have you guys seen the new "iPhone" from Apple Inc?
(they dropped "computers" from their title)
http://
How rad is that!?
(they dropped "computers" from their title)
http://
How rad is that!?
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1> yeah the 2mega-pixel camera seemed a bit weak to me too...maybe American users don't really use their phones to take pictures like we do in Japan?...
Probably more likely is that to achieve that $499 price-tag something had to be left low-spec, and the camera was the one that got decided upon...
2> Me too, I got a new phone recently and it looks like ancient technology to me now (T_T)
The "Apple TV" thing looked OK too, if anyone saw that, but honestly the iPhone just blows all the other product out of the water. Awesome...
How sad are Microsoft now (laughs)....they just put out that Zune mp3 player thing recently, and BOOM!
Eat the iPhone...
Too little, too late Bill....
Probably more likely is that to achieve that $499 price-tag something had to be left low-spec, and the camera was the one that got decided upon...
2> Me too, I got a new phone recently and it looks like ancient technology to me now (T_T)
The "Apple TV" thing looked OK too, if anyone saw that, but honestly the iPhone just blows all the other product out of the water. Awesome...
How sad are Microsoft now (laughs)....they just put out that Zune mp3 player thing recently, and BOOM!
Eat the iPhone...
Too little, too late Bill....
Yeah I read about the new iPhone. I might consider it if they made it available for Sprint. Unfortunately, the iPhone will be exclusive for Cingular in the U.S. No way in hell am I switching cellphone providers just for the sake of the iPhone.
I'd say 2 megapixel is enough for a camera phone, if not for a full-fledged compact digital camera. Taking pictures using cellphones isn't all that common here, as far as I can see.
I'd say 2 megapixel is enough for a camera phone, if not for a full-fledged compact digital camera. Taking pictures using cellphones isn't all that common here, as far as I can see.
I work for an apple distributor and I'm really not excited about this product. I hope it never hits Europe. Too many technologically impaired people own and struggle with something as simple as an iPod. The iPhone will cause me a whole new level of nightmare dealing with idiot customers. All their telecom related woes will be directed at us because the device has an apple on it, rather than at the telecoms provider...
I'll save my money until Sony release some sort of phone gadget for the PSP
I'll save my money until Sony release some sort of phone gadget for the PSP
4> well I think the main reason Apple got into to bed with Cingular was that they are the largest provider in the US - 58 million customers....
I can see your point of view だいはど and I think most mobile users over, say 40, are going to have similar feelings to yourself (not saying you're necessarily over 40 by the way!).
S.Jobs said the killer app for iPhone is making phonecalls - and that's something any mobile phone can do, so....
It's not rocket science but, I think what we'll see is an exact replay of the iPod model, where mostly young people jump on-board in the beginning...I mean the demographic that's mostly made up of rich young(ish) men who just want a new toy to show off.
And just imagine what most teenagers next Birthday request is going to be! :P
But the culmination is that towards the end, most people you know will have one - they are sure to make a cheaper model i.e Nano, mini etc
And I'm pretty sure other providers will be demanding a piece of the action....the Cingular deal was labelled a "multi-year" deal so at the least that means 2 years with Cingular (note : it's a 2 year contract when you buy the phone..hmm).
So you never know, there may be a Sprint iPhone by 2009!
I'm kinda thinking about what's gonna happen for Japan....
The whole mobile phone service set-up is different over here, so I'm not sure how it'll pan out...not to mention technology compatability (they always work those out though)...
Everyone in my office says SoftBank would probably pick up the iPhone, but I think based on the Cingular decision it would be AU (KDDI)....
As far as I know SoftBank are big chums with Microsoft, so not sure why they would want to team up with Apple - unless the iPhone business outweighs their ties to Microsoft in dollars.
Also SoftBank's service is crap, they don't have enough transmitters so it's pretty hard to get a signal when you get out of town. Same thing with NTT's Docomo FOMA phones.
I'm sure Apple will want to stay the f*ck away from that kind of service for the users....
AU are real good on the signal service side, and generally have the best designed phones, so I think iPhone would fit them very well. Most of their customers are also young people too.
Anyway, I'd consider getting an iPhone just for using like a PDA, neverind the phone function...
I can see your point of view だいはど and I think most mobile users over, say 40, are going to have similar feelings to yourself (not saying you're necessarily over 40 by the way!).
S.Jobs said the killer app for iPhone is making phonecalls - and that's something any mobile phone can do, so....
It's not rocket science but, I think what we'll see is an exact replay of the iPod model, where mostly young people jump on-board in the beginning...I mean the demographic that's mostly made up of rich young(ish) men who just want a new toy to show off.
And just imagine what most teenagers next Birthday request is going to be! :P
But the culmination is that towards the end, most people you know will have one - they are sure to make a cheaper model i.e Nano, mini etc
And I'm pretty sure other providers will be demanding a piece of the action....the Cingular deal was labelled a "multi-year" deal so at the least that means 2 years with Cingular (note : it's a 2 year contract when you buy the phone..hmm).
So you never know, there may be a Sprint iPhone by 2009!
I'm kinda thinking about what's gonna happen for Japan....
The whole mobile phone service set-up is different over here, so I'm not sure how it'll pan out...not to mention technology compatability (they always work those out though)...
Everyone in my office says SoftBank would probably pick up the iPhone, but I think based on the Cingular decision it would be AU (KDDI)....
As far as I know SoftBank are big chums with Microsoft, so not sure why they would want to team up with Apple - unless the iPhone business outweighs their ties to Microsoft in dollars.
Also SoftBank's service is crap, they don't have enough transmitters so it's pretty hard to get a signal when you get out of town. Same thing with NTT's Docomo FOMA phones.
I'm sure Apple will want to stay the f*ck away from that kind of service for the users....
AU are real good on the signal service side, and generally have the best designed phones, so I think iPhone would fit them very well. Most of their customers are also young people too.
Anyway, I'd consider getting an iPhone just for using like a PDA, neverind the phone function...
Hi "..." (#6).
Yeah, I know what you mean. (I _will_ be 40 this year, by the way!) Younger users probably use camera and other non-phone features more often than the older generation. As for the Cingular-only deal, though, I wonder what's in it for Apple to make the iPhone available for only one cellphone provider? Unless Cingular paid them to do that, of course...
Yeah, I know what you mean. (I _will_ be 40 this year, by the way!) Younger users probably use camera and other non-phone features more often than the older generation. As for the Cingular-only deal, though, I wonder what's in it for Apple to make the iPhone available for only one cellphone provider? Unless Cingular paid them to do that, of course...
7> yeah battery concerns are one of the most mentioned reservations about the iPhone...
I think the "5 hours" figure referred to using all three capabilities at once. If you were just talking on the phone it would be more like 8-9 hours I believe. But we all know how companies high-ball the f*ck out of those figures....
Recalling the early days of the iPod, even now to some extent, battery problems were epidemic. It does what they say it does in the first few weeks, months, but after extended use, that battery life just drops dramatically.
I have a friend who still has the old iPod with the mono-screen, and he only gets 30min playback from a full charge now! Ridiculous.....
On the other hand, my nano still goes as long as it did when I bought it over a year ago....
I'm prepared to believe Apple have nailed down the battery issues with their devices...(although laptops are still a bit crappy)
8> sure, I think the Blackberrys and Pearls etc are all marketed to somewhat of a stale target. Businessmen.
They also pick up a few "one-up" sales from young people with a bit of money who want to have a phone that is better than yours (these guys will most often tout the fact that their phone has a lot of amazing functions, but rarely use them).
Smartphones have basically been marketed as devices that will make your business life easier, make keeping up with your work smoother, you can take the office with you in your pocket etc....
Apple is a very strong brand, and they have pitched the image of this product very astutely - as a young, cool, multi-media toy that does all this rad stuff. Instead of saying the internet functions will let you keep up with business affairs they show those functions being used for meeting friends, buying music, checking out movies. They didn't even mention the word "office" once in their presentation...
This makes Blackberrys etc look like dry, boring, devices that only your Bank Manager would like.....
and iPhones look like vibrant toys that everyone who is anyone will have...
So I think iPhone will smash the Blackberry and "smartphone" market. Most Blackberry owners who bought one because it looked cool, better than a 'normal' mobile phone, will almost certainly switch to iPhone. Money isn't really the issue for these customers...
Also Apple will pick up whole groups of people who would have never been interested in a Blackberry but would certainly be prepared to have an iPhone - professionals in the creative field (particularly music - that's important as it will give Apple a stack of free advertising that will drive average people to want one), and teenagers.
9> I think <10> hit the nail on the head there as to why Cingular only.
Also just from a logistical and operations point of view, it's probably smarter just to have one provider in the beginning. I think also S.Jobs mentioned that to make the technology in iPhone possible Apple also needed providers to upgrade and enhance their network's capabilities - the selectable voice mail function was a good example. Perhaps Cingular were the only company that could do it, or were prepared to do it.
So that's the catch with the iPhone technology....it requires the networks to step up too, they can't just apply their current service to be compliant with the iPhone.
10> hey there....a bit tongue in cheek but
"the design is cool, but i already have an iPod."
I wonder how many people said
"the design is cool, but I already have a walkman/mini-disc/CD walkman"
when the iPod came out?
I know I did :D
"i've lost phones before. and that is one expensive freakin' phone. "
Absolutely, I'm sure Apple will eventually make a cheaper, smaller, version to appeal to users.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever lost your iPod?
I've lost my keys/phone/passport all of that before....but I never seem to forget my iPod...
So I have a feeling an iPhone will be safe :D
I think the "5 hours" figure referred to using all three capabilities at once. If you were just talking on the phone it would be more like 8-9 hours I believe. But we all know how companies high-ball the f*ck out of those figures....
Recalling the early days of the iPod, even now to some extent, battery problems were epidemic. It does what they say it does in the first few weeks, months, but after extended use, that battery life just drops dramatically.
I have a friend who still has the old iPod with the mono-screen, and he only gets 30min playback from a full charge now! Ridiculous.....
On the other hand, my nano still goes as long as it did when I bought it over a year ago....
I'm prepared to believe Apple have nailed down the battery issues with their devices...(although laptops are still a bit crappy)
8> sure, I think the Blackberrys and Pearls etc are all marketed to somewhat of a stale target. Businessmen.
They also pick up a few "one-up" sales from young people with a bit of money who want to have a phone that is better than yours (these guys will most often tout the fact that their phone has a lot of amazing functions, but rarely use them).
Smartphones have basically been marketed as devices that will make your business life easier, make keeping up with your work smoother, you can take the office with you in your pocket etc....
Apple is a very strong brand, and they have pitched the image of this product very astutely - as a young, cool, multi-media toy that does all this rad stuff. Instead of saying the internet functions will let you keep up with business affairs they show those functions being used for meeting friends, buying music, checking out movies. They didn't even mention the word "office" once in their presentation...
This makes Blackberrys etc look like dry, boring, devices that only your Bank Manager would like.....
and iPhones look like vibrant toys that everyone who is anyone will have...
So I think iPhone will smash the Blackberry and "smartphone" market. Most Blackberry owners who bought one because it looked cool, better than a 'normal' mobile phone, will almost certainly switch to iPhone. Money isn't really the issue for these customers...
Also Apple will pick up whole groups of people who would have never been interested in a Blackberry but would certainly be prepared to have an iPhone - professionals in the creative field (particularly music - that's important as it will give Apple a stack of free advertising that will drive average people to want one), and teenagers.
9> I think <10> hit the nail on the head there as to why Cingular only.
Also just from a logistical and operations point of view, it's probably smarter just to have one provider in the beginning. I think also S.Jobs mentioned that to make the technology in iPhone possible Apple also needed providers to upgrade and enhance their network's capabilities - the selectable voice mail function was a good example. Perhaps Cingular were the only company that could do it, or were prepared to do it.
So that's the catch with the iPhone technology....it requires the networks to step up too, they can't just apply their current service to be compliant with the iPhone.
10> hey there....a bit tongue in cheek but
"the design is cool, but i already have an iPod."
I wonder how many people said
"the design is cool, but I already have a walkman/mini-disc/CD walkman"
when the iPod came out?
I know I did :D
"i've lost phones before. and that is one expensive freakin' phone. "
Absolutely, I'm sure Apple will eventually make a cheaper, smaller, version to appeal to users.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever lost your iPod?
I've lost my keys/phone/passport all of that before....but I never seem to forget my iPod...
So I have a feeling an iPhone will be safe :D
>> 10 and 13
Thanks guys for the explanations. That makes sense. I find it surprising that the cellphone network per se had to be upgraded to accommodate the features offered by the iPhone, though. Hopefully Sprint will follow suit soon. I just hope GSM is an essential part of the iPhone technology. (Sprint uses CDMA.)
Thanks guys for the explanations. That makes sense. I find it surprising that the cellphone network per se had to be upgraded to accommodate the features offered by the iPhone, though. Hopefully Sprint will follow suit soon. I just hope GSM is an essential part of the iPhone technology. (Sprint uses CDMA.)
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