Or,at least a good way to decide which one to use
if you'd like haha
Hello,
Recently,I started helping a friend to learn Japanese. I myself have only been studying it for a few years, so of course I'm no expert
My friend asked me whether it was ok to say
1.（Something)『は』食べたことがあります
as well as
2.（Something)『を』食べたことがあります
In textbooks, it is usually given as the latter, and the 『は』and『が』in sentence 1. are contradictory I feel,so I told her to stick with no.2.
I would like to know if I'm correct/not in assuming that no.1 is irregular?
Also,I'm curious as to whether there are any cases where 『は』can be used in similar instances? i.e. with the 〜たことがある structure (or maybe 〜たことはある?)
Not exactly the most direct question (haha),so I'll be most greatful to anyone who can maybe provide some explanation
Thank you
Recently,I started helping a friend to learn Japanese. I myself have only been studying it for a few years, so of course I'm no expert
My friend asked me whether it was ok to say
1.（Something)『は』食べたことがあります
as well as
2.（Something)『を』食べたことがあります
In textbooks, it is usually given as the latter, and the 『は』and『が』in sentence 1. are contradictory I feel,so I told her to stick with no.2.
I would like to know if I'm correct/not in assuming that no.1 is irregular?
Also,I'm curious as to whether there are any cases where 『は』can be used in similar instances? i.e. with the 〜たことがある structure (or maybe 〜たことはある?)
Not exactly the most direct question (haha),so I'll be most greatful to anyone who can maybe provide some explanation
Thank you
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From what I always remember, が goes after the actual subject of the sentence and は gets used everywhere else, except if you're using 敬語 and/or there's a full moon and/or the Emperor sneezed after dinner. Then the rules inexplicably change and any foreigners within a 500-mile radius stop caring either way 
now both can be used
1. Something is, I've ever eaten it..
2. I've ever eaten something
about は／が,
が is used when the 'nominative' is important.
who does it? Hiroshi will do.
誰がやりますか? ヒロシがやるでしょう
誰が適任だ? ヒロシが適任です
who is appropriate? Hiroshi is.
#Hiroshi is important than anything else
昼ご飯何食べる? 牛丼が食いたいなぁ #あえて崩してます
What do you eat lunch? I want to eat beef bowl.
#I want to eat beef bowl, not curry, nor steak, nor ...
1. Something is, I've ever eaten it..
2. I've ever eaten something
about は／が,
が is used when the 'nominative' is important.
who does it? Hiroshi will do.
誰がやりますか? ヒロシがやるでしょう
誰が適任だ? ヒロシが適任です
who is appropriate? Hiroshi is.
#Hiroshi is important than anything else
昼ご飯何食べる? 牛丼が食いたいなぁ #あえて崩してます
What do you eat lunch? I want to eat beef bowl.
#I want to eat beef bowl, not curry, nor steak, nor ...
I'm pretty sure that grammatically both are correct. It's more conventional to use を than は/が but depending on what you want to emphasize, either can be used.
of course in conversation it's pretty typical to just leave off the particle anyways.
but here's an example of each sentence:
これを食べたことある？ (have you (ever) eaten this?)
これは食べたことある？ (as far as this is concerned, have you (ever) eaten it?)
it's also not uncommon in conversation for a pause to be inserted between the は and 食べたことある
typically, however, you would use を to indicate that (something) is the object that is being referred to by the verb (食べる）
hope this helps and doesn't confuse.
of course in conversation it's pretty typical to just leave off the particle anyways.
but here's an example of each sentence:
これを食べたことある？ (have you (ever) eaten this?)
これは食べたことある？ (as far as this is concerned, have you (ever) eaten it?)
it's also not uncommon in conversation for a pause to be inserted between the は and 食べたことある
typically, however, you would use を to indicate that (something) is the object that is being referred to by the verb (食べる）
hope this helps and doesn't confuse.
『は』is used when you want to compare two things.
Ａ：「すしやてんぷらを食べたことがありますか。」
Ｂ：「すしを食べたことがありますが、てんぷらは食べたことがありません。」
Ａ：「では、てんぷらをたべに行きましょう。」
You need to remember that the subject of は always gets to be focused.
As you know, it is same thing as between は and が.
If you have further questions, please feel free to ask me
Ａ：「すしやてんぷらを食べたことがありますか。」
Ｂ：「すしを食べたことがありますが、てんぷらは食べたことがありません。」
Ａ：「では、てんぷらをたべに行きましょう。」
You need to remember that the subject of は always gets to be focused.
As you know, it is same thing as between は and が.
If you have further questions, please feel free to ask me
Candy understands the difference between はandが.
＜As you know, it is same thing as between は and が. →
This means the understanding of the difference between はandが
can be used to the explanation of difference beween はandを.
I meant it.
Ｃａｎｄｙさんは、『は』と『が』の違いが分かっています。
その違いの説明を『は』と『を』の違いの説明に適用できる、と
言いたかったです
ＷＡＴＡさん
日本語の助詞は本当勉強するのが難しいですよね！
学習者の立場に立って、教えないといけないですね！
＜As you know, it is same thing as between は and が. →
This means the understanding of the difference between はandが
can be used to the explanation of difference beween はandを.
I meant it.
Ｃａｎｄｙさんは、『は』と『が』の違いが分かっています。
その違いの説明を『は』と『を』の違いの説明に適用できる、と
言いたかったです
ＷＡＴＡさん
日本語の助詞は本当勉強するのが難しいですよね！
学習者の立場に立って、教えないといけないですね！
ちょっと勉強しました。(wikipedia)
助詞 particle
1.格助詞 subject particle
が の を に へ と から より で
2.並立助詞 and particle
の に と や やら か なり だの
3.終助詞 end! particle
か かしら な の や とも か な ぞ や
4.間投助詞 end? particle
さ よ ね
5.副助詞 adverb particle
ばかり まで だけ ほど くらい など なり やら
6.係助詞 relational particle
は も こそ でも しか さえ
7.接続助詞 but-because particle
が けれども ところが のに から ので
8.準体助詞 noun particle
の から
８種類。それぞれ別の単語です。きちんと説明出来る日本人がいないのは仕方ないと思います。
8 kinds of particles, each "の" is different words. and every particle has several meanings.
助詞 particle
1.格助詞 subject particle
が の を に へ と から より で
2.並立助詞 and particle
の に と や やら か なり だの
3.終助詞 end! particle
か かしら な の や とも か な ぞ や
4.間投助詞 end? particle
さ よ ね
5.副助詞 adverb particle
ばかり まで だけ ほど くらい など なり やら
6.係助詞 relational particle
は も こそ でも しか さえ
7.接続助詞 but-because particle
が けれども ところが のに から ので
8.準体助詞 noun particle
の から
８種類。それぞれ別の単語です。きちんと説明出来る日本人がいないのは仕方ないと思います。
8 kinds of particles, each "の" is different words. and every particle has several meanings.
Read "Making Sense of Japanese" by Jay Rubin. You will never have a doubt in your mind about when to use は and が again.
For the record, both sentences are correct, but they mean something slightly different. 「SOMETHINGを食べることがありません」 means generically, "I have never eaten SOMETHING." 「SOMETHINGは食べることがありません」 is putting the emphasis on SOMETHING as the new topic of conversation (contrasting with something else). For example, I have eaten many foods in my lifetime, but when it comes to SOMETHING, I have never eaten that.
Similarly, the 「は」placed before the「こと」in「SOMETHINGを食べることはありません」sounds like "As for eating SOMETHING, that is something I've never done."
Again, the book I recommended explains it much better (as well as some other major sticking points for English-speaking Japanese learners, but that is the one I found the most useful). Hope it helps!
For the record, both sentences are correct, but they mean something slightly different. 「SOMETHINGを食べることがありません」 means generically, "I have never eaten SOMETHING." 「SOMETHINGは食べることがありません」 is putting the emphasis on SOMETHING as the new topic of conversation (contrasting with something else). For example, I have eaten many foods in my lifetime, but when it comes to SOMETHING, I have never eaten that.
Similarly, the 「は」placed before the「こと」in「SOMETHINGを食べることはありません」sounds like "As for eating SOMETHING, that is something I've never done."
Again, the book I recommended explains it much better (as well as some other major sticking points for English-speaking Japanese learners, but that is the one I found the most useful). Hope it helps!
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