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Nonsense! One must sacrifice all to master this language! Material posessions must be abandoned! Oaths of celibacy sworn! Snow walked through, at least one if not *both* ways uphill!
Seriously though, I can vouch that the school has good teachers for private lessons, plus evening classes and the like.
Seriously though, I can vouch that the school has good teachers for private lessons, plus evening classes and the like.
I'm seeking currently a school also, but I desire something intensive. I'm up for the 5 days a week class. Also I can't have beginners course, My current level is around 3 kyu. I found http://www.azabujapanese.com/intensivecourses.htm (don't know if they are okay and serious) but up to date they didn't answer my mail... holidays ?
Also a piece of advice, many people will tell you languages exchanges are good for learning... well I found that exchanges are good for beginners, but as soon as you reach some level they loose a lot of interest as most Japanese have no idea how to teach their own language and are unable to offer explications and good teaching, Japanese is very complicated language, seek professional help
Also a piece of advice, many people will tell you languages exchanges are good for learning... well I found that exchanges are good for beginners, but as soon as you reach some level they loose a lot of interest as most Japanese have no idea how to teach their own language and are unable to offer explications and good teaching, Japanese is very complicated language, seek professional help
I am a Japanese language and culture teacher in London.
I attended some language exchange pub parties in London. They were enjoyable; however, as a language teacher, I am happier if the student leans Japanese with proper instruction and lesson plans, with professional knowledge.
I am sorry that I do not know the school in Tokyo.
I will start a new Japanese language course in London every Monday evening. It is a struggle to find the students, because I am a free-lance teacher without the assistance of a school administration and promotion. I wish you lived in London, as I would be happy to teach you.
Akemi
www.solloway.org
I attended some language exchange pub parties in London. They were enjoyable; however, as a language teacher, I am happier if the student leans Japanese with proper instruction and lesson plans, with professional knowledge.
I am sorry that I do not know the school in Tokyo.
I will start a new Japanese language course in London every Monday evening. It is a struggle to find the students, because I am a free-lance teacher without the assistance of a school administration and promotion. I wish you lived in London, as I would be happy to teach you.
Akemi
www.solloway.org
I think language exchanges and the like are quite helpful and there are somke things you learn best through them but I agree with Drake and many Japanese can't give detailed explantions of their own language or be of much help once you have reached a certian point. If you can find a teacher that works for you I'd go with it b ut my best advice is to start studying by yourself. There is heap-s of text books avalible in many book stores, after that try reading one of them bilingual books or an easy kids book, watching tv things like that are always good, if your in Japan now my advice would be study and absorb langauge in your own free time how ever possible and test your self by talking to Japanese people as much as possible.
moof, I don't wish to insult Japanese people with my comments nor opinions.
I can agree with you that many native speakers don't have a good grasp about their own grammar, but this is even more true with Japanese people. Japanese education system is not axed towards explication and understanding but towards pure memory and repetition. While other countries try to explain how grammar works and try to make their students understands this is not true with Japanese education system.
In Japan a students who ask too much questions is not well welcomed and looked as a nuisance to other students, the system ask them to memorize and learn with or without understanding how it works. Because of this I have found most Japanese unable to explain things they know while I this doesn't happen as often in other cultures. Many Japanese friends I have tell me sometimes they feel frustrated for being unable to explain or tell things they know or feel... this is not a language barrier trouble, but cultural situation. Japanese society forces them to conform, not to ask many questions and not give their opinion as often.
In exchange I found Japanese with higher memory abilities than any other culture and I have meet some Japanese being able to remember and do things that they are unable to understand nor explain, and while most Americans and Europeans need explications to be able to learn or memorize (in general not just language) this is not true for Japanese people. This makes them faster learners in general.
I can agree with you that many native speakers don't have a good grasp about their own grammar, but this is even more true with Japanese people. Japanese education system is not axed towards explication and understanding but towards pure memory and repetition. While other countries try to explain how grammar works and try to make their students understands this is not true with Japanese education system.
In Japan a students who ask too much questions is not well welcomed and looked as a nuisance to other students, the system ask them to memorize and learn with or without understanding how it works. Because of this I have found most Japanese unable to explain things they know while I this doesn't happen as often in other cultures. Many Japanese friends I have tell me sometimes they feel frustrated for being unable to explain or tell things they know or feel... this is not a language barrier trouble, but cultural situation. Japanese society forces them to conform, not to ask many questions and not give their opinion as often.
In exchange I found Japanese with higher memory abilities than any other culture and I have meet some Japanese being able to remember and do things that they are unable to understand nor explain, and while most Americans and Europeans need explications to be able to learn or memorize (in general not just language) this is not true for Japanese people. This makes them faster learners in general.
A, this has gone way off-topic and deserves a separate thread.
B, on the contrary, Drake, I've had multiple Japanese friends who have been more than willing to take the time to help me understand my mistakes and explain weird grammar bits. I wouldn't go painting everyone with the same brush.
Additionally *I* can't really explain English grammar when my Japanese friends ask - I can provide examples and say "this is correct, this isn't", but hell if I can say why. I think unless you're a linguist that's generally true of everyone.
B, on the contrary, Drake, I've had multiple Japanese friends who have been more than willing to take the time to help me understand my mistakes and explain weird grammar bits. I wouldn't go painting everyone with the same brush.
Additionally *I* can't really explain English grammar when my Japanese friends ask - I can provide examples and say "this is correct, this isn't", but hell if I can say why. I think unless you're a linguist that's generally true of everyone.
ダンさん
A. You are right
B. You are right also, although to take the time to try to explain doesn't mean being able to. Japanese in general are very gentle, will be very patient and try very hard to explain, I didn't say different. You are also right that not everyone is the same and not everyone should be painted with the same brush, I have also met ungentle and inpatient Japanese, but the ones who have been gentle and tried to help me are far more than otherwise.
I'm no linguist either, when people ask me for grammar I try to remember my junior school classes, but sometimes I don't remember.
Back to the topic!
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I found a language school near Shin-Okubo, tomorrow I'm going to meet them and they will make test to check my level to see if I can be in their group or not. It's a Chinese/Korean/Thai group (I may be the only American/European, yai!) , so the classes are Japanese only, no other language is used in their classes, so they don't accept beginners. I wonder if my level will be enough through...
A. You are right
B. You are right also, although to take the time to try to explain doesn't mean being able to. Japanese in general are very gentle, will be very patient and try very hard to explain, I didn't say different. You are also right that not everyone is the same and not everyone should be painted with the same brush, I have also met ungentle and inpatient Japanese, but the ones who have been gentle and tried to help me are far more than otherwise.
I'm no linguist either, when people ask me for grammar I try to remember my junior school classes, but sometimes I don't remember.
Back to the topic!
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I found a language school near Shin-Okubo, tomorrow I'm going to meet them and they will make test to check my level to see if I can be in their group or not. It's a Chinese/Korean/Thai group (I may be the only American/European, yai!) , so the classes are Japanese only, no other language is used in their classes, so they don't accept beginners. I wonder if my level will be enough through...
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