☆NihonJack⇔日本ジャック☆コミュのHow do you remember kanji?

Any tricks for how you remember kanji, especially how to write kanji?

I remember furui 古い　because it looks like a graveyard cross, and I associate that with getting old and dying (a little morbid, but hey, it works).

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[4] mixiユーザー 07月04日 04:25

I understand that many people practise the Kanji over and over on their own but I've found that I've learned the on and kun readings best by associating them with words that use the sounds.

I prefer to practise words rather than kanji. I can extend my vocabulary at the same time.

[5] mixiユーザー 07月05日 00:07

I've got this excellent book which shows you how the modern kanji evolved from the original ancient Chinese heiroglyphs. Knowing that the "moon" radical actually evolved from both "moon" and "meat" makes life a whole lot easier for me. I always wondered why parts of the body had the moon radical in them....????
And as a language teacher, the best advice I can give is to use the kanji as much as possible. Write your diary in kanji, read everything you can find (advertisements on the bus etc), keep testing yourself. You'll soon remember them the way the Japanese do: through constant exposure.

[6] mixiユーザー 07月05日 02:40

I type what I'm reading into a text file. Words I don't know I look up, to find the reading and meaning. After a few times, the word starts to stick. (Doesn't do much for my handwriting ability, though.)

[7] mixiユーザー 07月05日 02:50

Matの言う通りに何度も書くだけでいいと思う。

But if that doesn't work for you there is a really excellent program called kanjipower by coscom that a friend of mine recommends.

http://www.coscom.co.jp/ebook/e-2001kanji.html

[8] mixiユーザー 07月05日 05:17

I don't think the Moon kanji evolved from the meat kanji; it is just unfortunate that both ended up being simplified into a similar form. Their original forms were different, a cresent Moon and a meaty set of ribs or so I learned in "Read Japanese Today".

Otherwise I agree. I'm reading and writing as much as I can to try and increase my vocabulary (my dictionary is falling apart from use). Also, try not to use computer help to read on the screen as that doesn't do your brain any good. If you must use the computer to read it, just convert to hiragana as that way you'll at least learn the 'on' readings. Reading real live books forces you to look them up properly which I find really helpful, as is actually writing them on paper. It also teaches you where they change the readings a little to make them sound better as you'll look up がん sometimes only to find they've changed it to かん。

I found writing them in rote form was not that useful so I just try to use them in actual writing. Luckily I use them at 会社。

[9] mixiユーザー 07月05日 14:35

I use the following:
1 - A Japanese Pocket PC with a fat dictionary that includes eijiro, edict, genius, and a few others. It is actually a Dell Axim converted from English OS to Japanese OS. Of course, it recognizes Japanese handwritting. Very handy for reading books.
2 - I use a program called KingKanji for Pocket PC. The program lets you know as write if you are making the correct strokes and in the correct order. The downside is that you have to write in a strictly correct manner and you can't cut any corners in your strokes.
3 - I also am a fan of a desktop/Pocket PC program called Stackz for increasing my vocab and ability to recognize kanji.
4 - I use Kanji In Context as my study text. As others have mentioned, learning kanji in whole words rather than kanji by kanji is great. I also read regular books for pleasure, but in terms of covering every kanji, I like Kanji in Context since it systematically covers all of them.
I guess my writing ability mostly lags because I just don't use them enough. Usually I communicate on the computer, which means I can't really write the words (unless I use my tablet PC, which actually can be used to write Japanese, but that takes way too much time). I can definitely read a wide variety of kanji, but when it comes to writing, I can usually write the "gist" of it, but some of the details are often left out. I guess there is really no way around it: I need to write more!

Now, if I could just find the time

[11] mixiユーザー 07月23日 21:35

The moon kanji didn't develop from the meat kanji, but often the moon radical was simplified from what was originally the meat radical.

[12] mixiユーザー 07月23日 22:23

As Mat said,it was Japanese way to learn "Kanji" in elementary School that we usually wrote new one again and again.
We wrote new one at least 100 times by homework,everyday!

[13] mixiユーザー 07月24日 06:42

It is tough for us as second language learners to try and squeeze the equivalent of many years of education into a hobby we do in our spare time. I'm getting faster at looking up kanji but memorizing them is taking time. Just learning them through reading and looking them up again and again works but you don't see the same one 100 times for a while. If I wrote them all 100 times perhaps I'd learn them... hard to keep at that though. That becomes a chore instead of fun, which is what I'm trying to make my learning of Japanese.

[14] mixiユーザー 07月24日 12:45

ハリsan,

＞That becomes a chore instead of fun

I think so I felt same way in my childhood,too.
Everyday we wrote them again and again as homework.
About basic "kanji" we learned almost in our teenager,from elementary school to high school.
But now still sometimes I can not write or read some of them, because there are a lot of special "proper noun".
It seems difficult even for us Japanese so there are so many "Kanji".
As I learn some foreign languages , I did same way(writing again and again).
It was not fun like you but it might be one of required way to learn some languages.

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